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Old 04-13-2005, 07:43 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Rate these pushes please

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Blinds up next hand, table is typically tight in all cases.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

SB (t1504)
BB (t2451)
UTG (t2537)
MP (t498)
Hero (t1010)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds and I push</font>

Blinds up in 3 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

UTG (t2065)
Hero (t625)
Button (t1280)
SB (t2420)
BB (t1610)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold and I push</font>

Blinds up in 2 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Button (t2530)
SB (t1240)
BB (t3405)
Hero (t825)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">I push</font>
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:18 PM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
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Default Re: Rate these pushes please

Ick. None of these situations are fun. These pushes all depend on just how tight the players are, and how much they want to bust you. I.e., when youre the short stack 4 handed, people are going to try to smoke you out if at all possible.

In all of these situations, if called, you're a 2.5:1 ish dog vs all but the tightest calling ranges (I can explain this number if you care). So let's check out the hands, and how often you'll get called in each.

Hand 1
I like the push here, as they aren't particularily looking to bust you just yet, and you don't need them to fold that many hands for this play to be profitable (you add 30% to your stack). You have a little bit of time to wait for a big hand, but not enough IMO.

Hand 2
Your hand here fares a little better than J6o vs hands that would call you, but I think you'll get called a good bit and the blinds just aren't quite big enough for this play to be profitable. You're not devastating anyone's stack who calls and loses, so you'll get looked up more often than you like. Plus people like to bust the short stack who is annoying them by not dying yet. Basically, you'll get your share of loose calls here, enough of a share to kill your FE. I fold.

Hand 3:
You're going to get called a very large percentage of the time here. You have very little FE vs the BB who will call with so many hands that it scares you. You're almost willingly taking a 2:1 dog situation. Yes the blinds are about to hit you, but any two cards you get in the BB will fare at least as well as 75s, so I'd prefer to take my mandatory race there. I'd pass.

Keep in mind that if these tables are exceptionally tight, I push everywhere, and if unusually loose, I'd fold everywhere.

Well, that's my take, take it or leave it.

-Kings
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:25 PM
New York Jet New York Jet is offline
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Default Re: Rate these pushes please

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Blinds up next hand, table is typically tight in all cases.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

SB (t1504)
BB (t2451)
UTG (t2537)
MP (t498)
Hero (t1010)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds and I push</font>

[/ QUOTE ]
Easy push.

[ QUOTE ]
Blinds up in 3 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

UTG (t2065)
Hero (t625)
Button (t1280)
SB (t2420)
BB (t1610)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold and I push</font>

[/ QUOTE ]
Close to a coin flip, but I would fold and take my chances on one of the next three hands.

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Blinds up in 2 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Button (t2530)
SB (t1240)
BB (t3405)
Hero (t825)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">I push</font>

[/ QUOTE ]
Another coin flip, but I would fold and take my chances on the big blind. Everyone is waiting for you to go broke and it is very likely to be called.
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:29 PM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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Default Re: Rate these pushes please

I don't like #1 even though you have the most folding equity of all 3 your hand is too bad, and you will be called by quite a few hands by the BB.

#2 I like, I would push this everytime.

#3 Depends on one thing. If the BB is very good and is using his chip lead to bully, push. Otherwise, fold.
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Old 04-13-2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Rate these pushes please

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#2 I like, I would push this everytime.


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Can you explain this? It's not clear to me why you have good FE with the big stack in the SB.
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Old 04-13-2005, 11:45 PM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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#2 I like, I would push this everytime.


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Can you explain this? It's not clear to me why you have good FE with the big stack in the SB.

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You don't... but its not getting better anytime soon, in fact its getting worse every hand you wait. The suited connector plays pretty well against typical calling hands.
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Old 04-13-2005, 11:50 PM
Unparagoned Unparagoned is offline
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Default Re: Rate these pushes please

I love suited connectors in push-fold poker. In fact, I just kinda love suited connectors. It's too bad that playing cute cards doesn't necessarily make you a good poker player...
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