STEP 5. to push or not to push

[raptor517]

***** Hand History for Game 1866044145 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11130880) - Fri Apr 08 21:16:22 EDT 2005
Table Step 5 983970 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: stevesbets_ (1555)
Seat 3: jprender (1930)
Seat 4: HoytCorkins5 (2945)
Seat 6: wtf_PWND (2365)
Seat 7: vinnipuh (1205)
vinnipuh posts small blind (200)
stevesbets_ posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to wtf_PWND [ 2h, Qs ]
jprender folds.
HoytCorkins5 folds.
wtf_PWND ???????

[The Yugoslavian]

Errrrrrrrrrm. How much money have you lost today to be taking a crack at the STEP 5s?!

What kinda tilt are we dealing with here???

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Yugoslav

[raptor517]

lol, only marginal tilt. i didnt do TOO bad today.. im still haunted from 2 nights ago though.. ugh. holla

[TheUsher]

Come on Yugo. We both know that the question can't be answered because the day isn't over yet. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[The Yugoslavian]

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lol, only marginal tilt. i didnt do TOO bad today.. im still haunted from 2 nights ago though.. ugh. holla

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Will SB be pushing? I think he will....I think the $EV you gain by sitting this one out and pushing on the next is nice....the BB here pretty much has to call IMO (and the SB pretty much has to push).

Yugoslav

[Voltron87]

If Stevebets is good fold. If he is weak push.

[The Yugoslavian]

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lol, only marginal tilt. i didnt do TOO bad today.. im still haunted from 2 nights ago though.. ugh. holla

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Will SB be pushing? I think he will....I think the $EV you gain by sitting this one out and pushing on the next is nice....the BB here pretty much has to call IMO (and the SB pretty much has to push).

Yugoslav

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N/M I was reading the whole thing wrong...please ignore my previous post....none of it applies in the way I thought it did.

Pushing is probably the best option...unless ur opponents aren't very good or have seen u pushing all over the place recently...

As I'd assume STEP 5 players at this point are playing somewhat non-exploitable theory...I'd push.

Yugoslav

[Daliman]

Anyone who says push here doesn't understand proper use of aggression at the bubble. You may as well push every single hand you are first in at the bubble then, cuz this is the exact same thing. You need a better reason to push than, " But they're playing tight, right, so I can steal?".

I'd need at LEAST QJs or 66 to push here.

[raptor517]

this is not the exact same thing. you are on the button here. if you run an icm, pushing 23o (effectively, any 2), as you say is terrible, from the button here, assuming that sb will call with 55+ and A2+, BB calls with 22+ A2+ KQ and KJs, (which is probably MUCH looser than it is in reality, but im just making a point) this push is worth $45. PUSHING ANY TWO CARDS ON THIS BUTTON IS WORTH FORTY FIVE DOLLARS. that should answer any and all questions. feel free to argue, im open to it. holla

[Daliman]

You are risking 1/2 to 2/3rds of your stack for a 1% EV gain and a HUGE Variance.