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04-07-2005, 01:41 AM
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$33 Level 5 hand
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) converter
SB (t1720) Hero (t2260) UTG (t55) MP (t1710) Button (t2255) Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls t55 (All-In), <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2255 (All-In)</font>, Hero.... 
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#2
04-07-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
That's a helluva level 5 hand.....those blinds are MONSTERS!!!
Yugoslav Bwahahahahaha!
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#3
04-07-2005, 01:50 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
given the fact that villain pushed allin, vs just calling, I feel confident he doesn't have AA/KK and perhaps QQ. So he either has a middle pair, or a worse two card combo.
Even given this knowledge, I still don't think I can call this.
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04-07-2005, 01:52 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
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given the fact that villain pushed allin, vs just calling, I feel confident he doesn't have AA/KK and perhaps QQ. So he either has a middle pair, or a worse two card combo. Even given this knowledge, I still don't think I can call this. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I'll give you one chance to guess what I voted, [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. Yugoslav Bwahahahahahaha!
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#6
04-07-2005, 02:12 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
We don't need any caddy comments out of you.
Scuba lol
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#7
04-07-2005, 02:15 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
This hand is read-dependent. For example I believe folding would be a definite error against someone like Strassa.
Even against a more selective player a call may be correct. For example, if villain's range is AA-22, AKs-A5s, KQs-K6s, QJs-Q9s, JTs-J8s, T9s-T8s, 98s-97s, 87s, AKo-A8o, KQo-K8o, QJo-Q9o, JTo-J9o, T9o, calling and folding are essentially equivalent in the ICM's eyes. Nor is there any reason I can see to go against ICM here. So unless I thought the villain was considerably tighter than this, I would call to speed things along. It also depends on how tight the players to your left are. It doesn't look like a great FE situation though because they only have 4xBB or so and may feel like they have to take a stand soon. Nor are they likely to think they can wait each other out -- their stacks are almost identical. I voted "call."
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#8
04-07-2005, 02:22 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
Why fold? The button should be raising with a lot of hands, of which AQo is behind only a few. I feel like I'm missing something here..
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04-07-2005, 02:26 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
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This is somewhat read-dependent. For example I believe I call would be correct against someone like Strassa. [/ QUOTE ] I'm laughing out loud. The more I think about this hand, the more I'm leaning towards a call, but not liking it. I'm pretty sure I let myself get confused by the fact that two players were in the pot, when shorty really "doesn't exist." This just comes down to calling standards. So that being said, I either dominate villain, or I'm slightly behind. (unless he has AA/KK/AK of course). Edit: I'm changing my answer. This is a call. I think folding here is weak/tight. If mr shorty had any sort of significance to his stacksize, I'd feel fine folding here, but that's not the case. Scuba
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#10
04-07-2005, 02:29 AM
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Re: $33 Level 5 hand
Well it's close. ICM wants you to be at least 59% or so. So, you are golden against a random hand. Against most players I'm guessing it's close enough that it doesn't matter much one way or the other. Against someone you know is tight it's a definite fold, not just because you're probably not 59% but also because it'll be easier to steal blinds on subsequent hands.
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