Level 3 push that couldn't have turned out better

1C5 · #1 04-02-2005, 12:01 PM

Trying to add new things to my game. Party $11. Nice when things couldn't work out better. Before I would have raised 3-4X BB and would have folded probably when the flop missed me. But by pushing, I will take the money from the limpers or b)even better, double up with only an A high hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t530)
MP2 (t2107)
CO (t1190)
Button (t1638)
SB (t915)
Hero (t790)
UTG (t830)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 3 folds, Button calls t50, SB completes, Hero raises to t790 (All-In), UTG folds, Button calls t740, SB folds.

Flop: (t1680) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t1680) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1680) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1680

Results in white below: 
Button has Ad Jh (one pair, fours).
Hero has As Ks (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins t1680.

syka16 · #2 04-02-2005, 12:10 PM

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Trying to add new things to my game. Party $11. Nice when things couldn't work out better. Before I would have raised 3-4X BB and would have folded probably when the flop missed me. But by pushing, I will take the money from the limpers or b)even better, double up with only an A high hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You want a call only from hands you dominate Ax Kx and if you make the 4BB PF raise, those hands will pay you off when you hit anyway. So if you play AK the way you did, you pick up 3BB 90% but force youself into a coinflip 5% and dominate %5. More importantly, you force Ax/Kx into a fold when he should be paying you off. Stop doing that!!!

1C5 · #3 04-02-2005, 12:12 PM

Someone talk some sense into him and tell me it was a good play. I am proud of myself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Nick B. · #4 04-02-2005, 12:17 PM

I think that is a pretty standard play.

syka16 · #5 04-02-2005, 12:42 PM

Standard? Standard is 4BB. Blowing limpers out requires fewer BB to be standard. With AKs, you're hitting the flop hard enough 50% to push the flop. I think with that stack size, you're missing too many chances to double up.

Phil Van Sexton · #6 04-02-2005, 12:45 PM

It's not standard, but it should be.

Nottom · #7 04-02-2005, 01:07 PM

Your out of position. I like the push.

davehwm · #8 04-02-2005, 02:11 PM

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It's not standard, but it should be.

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Your post about the importance of Level 3 has helped my game tremendously. Thanks.

Phil Van Sexton · #9 04-02-2005, 10:03 PM

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It's not standard, but it should be.

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Your post about the importance of Level 3 has helped my game tremendously. Thanks.

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Glad its working for you. I'm still waiting for someone to explain level 4. I have nothing to offer here.

sofere · #10 04-03-2005, 12:29 AM

You end up increasing your stack by 25% 9 out of 10 times??? And 30-35% of the times that your called you double up? So you bust out only 6% of the time?

SWEET!