Bluff-raised on the river?

Isura · #1 03-30-2005, 11:16 PM

Villian was 35/4/1.5 after about 40 hands. More relevant, is that, previously I had seen him check behind the flop HU with a A5o (pair of aces), then raise the turn when the board paired with two other cards. I strange line thought, but anyways, no other reads.
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, UTG folds.

River: (8.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

toss · #2 03-30-2005, 11:19 PM

I'd still call that river getting 1-8.75 even with your read on villain. Many times you'll see a hand that beats you, but I think this is still a profitable call in the long run.

btspider · #3 03-30-2005, 11:22 PM

i save the bet-folds for TPNK or second pair type hands and my W$SD still tends to hover around 56.

deepsquat · #4 03-30-2005, 11:22 PM

seems a strange card to bluff. Id still call here with top pair.

Isura · #5 03-30-2005, 11:24 PM

Are you implying check-calling or bet-calling?

jaxUp · #6 03-30-2005, 11:25 PM

Against someone who has pulled some crap (like that A5o thing), this is a pretty easy call I think. I could see a QJ here, maybe a T, maybe mid pp. There aren't too many 7s in the repetoir of a 35% VPIP CC'er.

toss · #7 03-30-2005, 11:25 PM

He says bet-fold so betting and checking.

NAU_Player · #8 03-30-2005, 11:25 PM

Unless you are anticipating him raising you on the river, there is no reason to assume you are behind.

I bet/call the river.

UncleSalty · #9 03-30-2005, 11:27 PM

I think w/ 10.75:1 you should call for one more. It just doesn't make sense that he would call a raise PF with a 7, so that leaves the odd Q/T two pair, which I think is vulnerable enough to redraws that he would be playing aggressively on the flop.

His line just doesn't make sense, so it smells like a bluff to me. (At least enough of the time to make a call correct)

jaxUp · #10 03-30-2005, 11:27 PM

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Are you implying check-calling or bet-calling?

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Not value betting this would be awful...bet/call