Link for newer players

[Greg J]

I came across this hand on the SS forum. It's nothing spectacular, but you newer players might learn a little something from it. When I was a newer play there is no way I would have played the hand like it was played. As it stands now, I don't see that there is any other correct way to play it. Read the whole thread. To vets this will look standard (b/c it is).

link.

[shadow29]

This is an important read.

Keep in mind that your action differs significantly if someone other than the button bets.

Think about what happens if: (vets, don't answer, let's get a discussion)

EP bets, folded to you.
EP bets, some callers (number doesn't matter).
EP bets, a raiser (doesn't matter significantly if there are callers, but think about someone who is raising a bettor + callers, or just a bettor)
MP bets, folded to you.
MP bets, some callers.
MP bets, a raiser.

[Greg J]

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Keep in mind that your action differs significantly if someone other than the button bets.

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Good point.

[Duerig]

[ QUOTE ]
This is an important read.

Keep in mind that your action differs significantly if someone other than the button bets.

Think about what happens if: (vets, don't answer, let's get a discussion)

EP bets, folded to you.
EP bets, some callers (number doesn't matter).
EP bets, a raiser (doesn't matter significantly if there are callers, but think about someone who is raising a bettor + callers, or just a bettor)
MP bets, folded to you.
MP bets, some callers.
MP bets, a raiser.

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I think I might fold all of these situations. Except for

MP bets, folded to you.

In which case I would raise. I tend to be a bit too weak tight though. Especially with medium-ish pocket pairs when overcards fall. I'm interested in hearing other responses.

[GrunchCan]

[ QUOTE ]
This is an important read.

Keep in mind that your action differs significantly if someone other than the button bets.

Think about what happens if: (vets, don't answer, let's get a discussion)

EP bets, folded to you.
EP bets, some callers (number doesn't matter).
EP bets, a raiser (doesn't matter significantly if there are callers, but think about someone who is raising a bettor + callers, or just a bettor)
MP bets, folded to you.
MP bets, some callers.
MP bets, a raiser.

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Cmon all you lurkers. Everybody respond.

[Shillx]

but you newer players might learn a little something from it.

I really learned a lot from this post. Thanks a bunch Focker. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Brad

[shadow29]

Yeah, shill. I would've thought your line would only include one option:

open folding.

[Somekid]

I would fold every case except the actual hand and the mp bettor with folds to hero (i would raise that). Most of the time a person betting a flop like this has some sort of a hand even if its j with a weak kicker. The button would pretty much auto-bet this with overcards, so the check-raise is good. Sound correct?

[Ringo_Mojo]

Without a read, I think i would have open bet this instead of checking to begin with. I don't know about B&M or Higher stakes, but in the micros that i play in check raising doesn't seem to eliminate many players, and more often just lets everyone get a free card. Is this a bad way to look at the situation?

[shadow29]

Why do you think that betting out is better than checking? (Not being condescending, or sarcastic, etc.)