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Old 03-27-2005, 12:53 PM
shejk shejk is offline
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Default Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

Second hand of a 50+5, no reads on anyone. My thinking was along the lines "so many limpers, I don't want to put in a 125 raise here with a sort of crappy hand".

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG (t1130)
UTG+1 (t1000)
UTG+2 (t970)
MP1 (t970)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Hero (t990)
SB (t985)
BB (t955)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t15, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t122.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t110, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero folds.
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Old 03-27-2005, 12:58 PM
Rolen Rolen is offline
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

Nope. Tight-passive until you need chips to survive = profit in SNGs. It's sad but true. I'm so tight passive in the first level I fold this pre-flop!


EDIT : Now if you were to fold this to a raise in a cash game or later on in the tourney it would probably be a bad move, but here, I like it. Of the 1/2 times you'll get to a flop (the other half someone with 55 will put you all in) you'll miss 2/3 of the time, and the 1/3 you do hit will sometimes be sucked out on by 56o.
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

Folding marginal hands like AQ for a 125 chip raise is fine. Folding preflop is for retards.

I wouldn't fold AK here, but I would fold AQ.
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

What's the point of playing it in the first level? If you somehow get to a flop you gotta hit, and of the 1/3 of the time you hit you've gotta somehow get past the morons who are in with 57o and flopped two pair, and even then you usually take a small pot or lose a big one, and even THEN the chips aren't worth all that much anyway!
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

What's the point of playing at all then? Just start up the tourney go away for 1/2 hour and then come back and push in your short stack at the first opportunity. You can play that way and make a small profit or you can learn to play poker and make a big profit.
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

In a cash game, where all the chips have the same value, I agree in a shot. In this game, where you can double up here and still very easily finish outside the money, I don't.
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

What about limping in from the button in this situation? Is this standard, or should I raise with AQo here?
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

i would have played it exactly the same

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Old 03-27-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

I like the fold - after you had limped and were raised.

If everyone limps to me and I have AQ on the button, I will definitely raise. Here it would probably be to like 90. You will get some folds which is good. You will get AJ- to call, which is good. AK, AA-QQ will probably reraise you, which is good.

If the buy-in is a factor here, I would think the higher your buy-in the less you can do something like fold or limp here.
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Old 03-27-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Have I gotten way too tightpassive?

I would probably limp, then if I hit an A or Q look to play a small pot. Folding for the raise is fine.
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