Going Cold Online, anyone else experience this

avalanche201 · #1 03-25-2005, 03:53 AM

Hey all- First this post is not made in an egotistical fancy, i am looking for honest answers. Anyways I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this before. Basically you make a deposit, you get up, for me it was 50 in poker stars, make it up to 130, in the small rooms. Then i go cold, just sick cold, loose on trips, flushes, even boats. Then go back up to 110, then back down over and over again. I have been cold again all week. Yesterday lost on two pair, aces, two pair again, on and on. Then i log on today, playing only good hands, played 26 hands, got top pair ONCE. I mean the odds on getting top pair are 1 in 4, i had AK 4 times nothing, i got top pair once, playing no lower then a J10.

Now as i said, i am not immune to making mistakes, but i also didnt start sucking at poker overnight. I know luck can down turn for a while, but it seems to happen this way every time. i have played on poker room, same exact thing. And i mean yes when i play live you have bad nights, you dont get cards dont get flops, but these things dont last for weeks. Or in the internet case where you get near even, and then back up you go.

I dont completely mistrust these sites, although being a poker dealer i do believe that the hands are bigger (slided towards making a bigger rake). IE those hands you see two boats vs quads vs a flush. I men if these really happend casinos would be paying out bad beats every day several times a day. I guess i can see that the reason for this does happen is to make sure good players arent just taking the crappy ones money, because if that happens they dont come back. Less players less money. So you get this up and down rollercoster. Thus they make money dont loose players, thats my theory atleast.

What I do know is that many peoples experience online is a bad one, and mine is starting to turn into that. Anyone else experience these huge shifts? I mean blatent ones like you just get nothing fold to the point you only play about 10% of the hands (just the blinds) or dont get top pair in several hours (even with the increase in hands).

Im just tired of logging on and getting the feeling that my poker game sucks, that when i play live this is not the case. However as stated i am a dealer so the bulk of my experience is in the cyber world. But mostly it would be nice to know if other people have seen this trend.

Surfbullet · #2 03-25-2005, 04:03 AM

The long term in the poker world is reallllly long. I've had a 15,000 hand breakeven stretch - I am not an amazing player, but historically proven to be a winner, so it's still a staggering amount of hands to coast over.

It's important to be sufficiently bankrolled, and not let the immediate results get to you... you will have up days, and down days. Sometimes you'll have down months.

Keep your chin up.

Surf

gamblore99 · #3 03-25-2005, 04:08 AM

this is called a losing streak. yes, others have had them. they are a part of poker.

Welcome to the forum

7ontheline · #4 03-25-2005, 04:22 AM

I get Aces every hand. You mean you don't have the hack for internet poker yet?

Seriously though, everyone gets sucky cards sometimes.

peachy · #5 03-25-2005, 05:13 AM

im frozen in ice and forever trapped inside a gigantic glacier

Cerril · #6 03-25-2005, 06:55 AM

About six years ago I took some classes in critical thinking that made me start looking at things a lot more carefully. I make a point to consciously note things happening in a statistically likely manner whenever I can, to help balance out the times when it seems something funky's happening. When I hit a bunch of green lights in a row some day I don't feel like the world is out to get me the next week when I hit every red light, or those times when people are courteous to me help when I'd otherwise be wondering why everyone seems out to cause me in particular grief.

So those times where I hit a huge downswing following an upswing recall the times when the upswing was followed by another upswing and so on. That's not to say it hurts to try to find statistical anomalies, but it's pretty likely they won't be there and with the right outlook it won't even look all that odd

OrangeKing · #7 03-25-2005, 09:55 AM

Hey, it's another "is online poker rigged?" thread! However, you deserve an honest, good answer, because your post was inquisitive and I think you're really looking to learn - not to find scapegoats.

No, poker sites are not screwing with you, juicing hands, or doing anything else than dealing cards that are much closer to random than the hands you deal at your casino. Why do you feel the way you feel?

1) Natural skeptism over not being able to see the cards, meaning something could be fishy;

2) Your brain's natural tendency to see patterns, even when they don't exist;

3) The fact that you're seeing 2-3 times as many hands per hour than when you deal/play live;

4) The tendency for people to assume any downswing is due to luck, foul play, or anything else that's out of their hands, as oppoosed to the tendency to think of any upswing as an indication of skill.

Don't worry, at any of the major sites, your play is perfectly legitimate and safe. If you're a winning player, you'll come out ahead in the long run, like many of us here have. If you're a losing player...you're in the right place to learn how to win. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

cardcounter0 · #8 03-25-2005, 10:14 AM

So you are a poker dealer but you have never seen anyone run cold .... yeah, okay.
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driller · #9 03-25-2005, 11:56 AM

I won over $11,000 at 15-30 on pp in Feb. Almost 10 bb/100. Now, in March so far I'm down $4400. -2.33 bb/100 over 6300 hands. Is that cold enough for you? For the year I'm up about 2bb/100, which I hope is indicative of where I am as a player right now. Wish it were better, but it's not.

P.S. If you really believe the sites are rigged, why play?

boogster · #10 03-25-2005, 12:20 PM

These poker sites are definitely rigged. I've played enough online poker to know that these "swings" don't happen randomly. You can definitely win money playing online, but you have to know when to "start playing" and when to drop down to the lower limits to "weather the storm". The reason they bring you up and then bring you down is so that they can generate the maximum rake from their customers. That's really the only way that they can control how much they make in rake.