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Old 03-24-2005, 12:54 PM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Raising with a flush draw.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

At first I was thinking of raising pre-flop with the intention of just trying to get it heads-up with the CO (60 vp$ip).

Then I tried going for the free-card play on the flop.

Everything is standard play though, right?
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

Cap the flop.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

Cap the flop. Standard otherwise.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:57 PM
KaiShin KaiShin is offline
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

Nut flush draw = cap flop.

Everything else is fine.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

Eh, I think sometimes it's more EV to not cap the flop here.
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

Well, I'm going to crawl back into my hole now because I can see nothing standard about capping the flop because of a flush draw. What's that all about? Anyone? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

You are forcing the SB to call two cold, and with only 3 other players in you need everyone to call to make your raise correct. Unless he's a major calling station, it may have been a mistake to raise without one more player in or better position relative to the bettor. It's a close decision though and probably doesn't make a huge difference in the long run.

A6s is not a hand you really want to play heads up with, so I wouldn't raise preflop. You want as many callers as possible so you win a big pot when you make your flush.

Nice hand overall.
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:06 PM
Delphin Delphin is offline
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

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Well, I'm going to crawl back into my hole now because I can see nothing standard about capping the flop because of a flush draw. What's that all about? Anyone? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I agree. You have only a 35% chance of making the flush and therefore only should bet/raise if three or more players are calling you. I guess the A may add a little more equity, but since you're being three bet into, those outs may not be good.
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

On the flop you're going to win this hand around 35% of the time, but you're only contributing 25% of all the bets going in. This = good. (It's called a pot equity edge or some such. I read that in a book once.)

You also might get a free card.
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Raising with a flush draw.

You need 2 callers to break even on the flop bets, not 3.

(But he's got 3 anyway.)
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