88 level 2

dfscott · #1 03-22-2005, 11:34 AM

Am I weak to fold this river?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

MP1 (t760)
Hero (t880)
CO (t935)
Button (t755)
SB (t1870)
BB (t530)
UTG (t1370)
UTG+1 (t900)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t30, Hero calls t30, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t60, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls t60.

Turn: (t240) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t240) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets t100, Hero ???

jah0550 · #2 03-22-2005, 11:38 AM

I fold this. I would put the villian on a weak king. There are also 3 overs out there, so I'd save your chips for a better opportunity.

shoeman · #3 03-22-2005, 11:41 AM

I think I'd have to fold this. Very little chance you are ahead here. 3 overs and a villian who suddenly wakes up on the river. If he is bluffing at the pot than he picked a good spot.

pooh74 · #4 03-22-2005, 12:03 PM

would you call a nearly half pot bet on the river holding 82 with a K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] board? There's not much difference here.

poboys · #5 03-22-2005, 12:09 PM

His blocking bet got ya. T60 screams draw or mid-pp to me on the flop, I'd either bet this a little harder, or take another small stab on the turn (another 1/2 pot bet). I think you lost this pot when you checked the turn, and you certainly have to fold on the river.

betgo · #6 03-22-2005, 12:19 PM

On the flop, I would probably check. If this is a $10 SNG, the play is way to loose to try to make a play at the pot here. Someone probably has a K or a 9. If you are going to bet the flop, make a bigger bet.

On the river, fold.

rickr · #7 03-22-2005, 12:29 PM

Why are you betting the flop? If you think you have the best hand, or position, Bet more, say 3/4 pot. If called be done with the hand. At this level people will call with any ace, any draw for a 1/2 pot bet. 1/2 pot screams weak, bluff me. It will cost you alot more to bet the turn again, so try and take it on the flop.

Later,
Rick

wuwei · #8 03-22-2005, 12:59 PM

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Nah, river fold is good.

I think the flop bet is questionable. Against two opponents, I'd take a stab at it most of the time. Against three or more, my default play would be to check unless I really think these guys are weak and unlikely to call unless they actually have a piece of the flop.

beggars · #9 03-22-2005, 01:02 PM

Betting the flop and checking the turn when a 6 comes off? You were probably beat all along and you played it that way. Good news is you can walk away without too much damage.

Scuba Chuck · #10 03-22-2005, 01:11 PM

I don't have any serious issues with your postflop play. It's your preflop play that is questionable IMO.