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Old 03-21-2005, 11:16 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default ITM, is this too aggressive here?

Again, I somehow manage to get 3rd when I have the majority of the chips. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Do you make the same play here? I was assuming (wrongly so) that the middle stack would fold everything besides premium cards in order to play for 2nd. I was wrong as he pushed with KJ which obviously I had to call and he hit a K and left me short.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) converter

Hero (t4350)
SB (t1100)
BB (t2550)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t2550 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t1050.

Flop: (t5300) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t5300) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t5300) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5300
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:22 PM
Benholio Benholio is offline
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?

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which obviously I had to call

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Anytime you will obviously have to call a reraise from your deepest opponent, you should just push. I'd have pushed these 2's without thinking twice about it.
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:26 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?


If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?

Yeah I know I should have pushed, I thought the 1500 raise would have got the job done, but next time will be a push.
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?

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If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.

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Would have you pushed with 22 here also?
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?

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If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.

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As a corrollary to this, if you don't want to have to call don't raise so much. I will make it 1000 here somewhat often, as it is enough to get a fold most of the time but gives you a chance to get away if he comes over the top if you don't feel like gambling.
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?

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If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.

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As a corrollary to this, if you don't want to have to call don't raise so much. I will make it 1000 here somewhat often, as it is enough to get a fold most of the time but gives you a chance to get away if he comes over the top if you don't feel like gambling.

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The only thing that sucks about that, is all of the times you lay your 2's down and he doesn't have a pair, you've just made a big mistake.

I know that wasn't the point of your reply, just wanted to point that out.
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?

i'd push 22 here all the time.

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Old 03-22-2005, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?

yeah i'm gonna push with 2s. But with ahnds like A5 or something it sometimes helps to have an out, although usually this is more of a concern when the BB has a few more chips.
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: ITM, is this too aggressive here?


Easy allin IMO, however theres not much of a difference between 1500 and allin. Not really sure why you chose the former?? What's your reason?
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