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03-18-2005, 08:49 PM
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Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter
Button (t2660) SB (t1040) Hero (t2010) UTG (t2290) Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t400. Flop: (t1800) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero is all-in. What do y'all think of this play? Villain had min-raised my last BB and had generally been agressive preflop. The plan was to push any flop. 
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#4
03-18-2005, 08:59 PM
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Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble
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bwahahaha, cocky ilya, i like it. hes gonna be as scared of that bored as anything. especially if he doesnt have an ace with a spade. it IS risky, but it has its merits. holla [/ QUOTE ] I like the flop bet because of the flop texture, but he planned on pushing any board. I don't like the stop-n-go here preflop.
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#5
03-18-2005, 09:04 PM
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Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble
I agree with J-man on this one. Furthermore, there is a pretty decent chance that your opponent has EITHER an ace or a decent spade, either one of which will be enough to get him to call you.
Seems like Fancy Play Syndrome to me, or just trying to bluff a bad player. I make these kind of moves sometimes but I usually end up regretting them.
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#6
03-18-2005, 09:07 PM
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Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble
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I agree with J-man on this one. Furthermore, there is a pretty decent chance that your opponent has EITHER an ace or a decent spade, either one of which will be enough to get him to call you. [/ QUOTE ] The board is irrelevant for evaluating the play, since the heart of the whole play is going all-in on any board (except I guess if I flop a monster). I think this was a pretty good play but I'm gonna wait a bit before posting my defense.
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#9
03-18-2005, 10:10 PM
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Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble
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The board is irrelevant for evaluating the play, since the heart of the whole play is going all-in on any board (except I guess if I flop a monster). [/ QUOTE ] Well, if a 'stop-n-go' must be done without any regards to the flop, then I think it is a terrible play. Just because you plan on probably pushing the flop after calling (stopping and going), doesn't mean you shouldn't have an escape hatch if the flop is really bad. Really I think its just silly not to use the information of what comes on the flop in making your decision, no matter what your plan was pre-flop.
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#10
03-18-2005, 10:31 PM
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Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble
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[ QUOTE ] The board is irrelevant for evaluating the play, since the heart of the whole play is going all-in on any board (except I guess if I flop a monster). [/ QUOTE ] Well, if a 'stop-n-go' must be done without any regards to the flop, then I think it is a terrible play. Just because you plan on probably pushing the flop after calling (stopping and going), doesn't mean you shouldn't have an escape hatch if the flop is really bad. Really I think its just silly not to use the information of what comes on the flop in making your decision, no matter what your plan was pre-flop. [/ QUOTE ] Are you saying you think the very idea of a stop-and-go play is terrible, or that this is a terrible place for it? I think if you're saying the former, you definitely have a leak.
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