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Old 03-18-2005, 03:22 PM
GutPunch GutPunch is offline
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Default JJ early stage, easy fold??

NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Level:1 Blinds(10/15) -

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: ( $715 )
Seat 5: ( $715 )
Seat 6: ( $755 )
Seat 8: ( $375 )
Seat 4: ( $540 )
Seat 10: ( $660 )
Seat 2: ( $755 )
Seat 9: ( $800 )
Seat 1: ( $755 )
Seat 7: ( $1930 )
Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StructureK [ Jd Js ]
Seat 8: calls [15].
Seat 9: calls [15].
Seat 10: raises [250].
Seat 1: calls [250].
Seat 2: ???????

Considering its so early, is this an easy fold faceing a big bet a cold call and people still yet to act?? or maybe a push hopein to triple up early??

any thoughts?
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Old 03-18-2005, 03:28 PM
ColdestCall ColdestCall is offline
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

JJ is a very frequently overplayed hand. Don't be afraid to lay it down when you should, and you should here. Maybe you are ahead, maybe you are behind, maybe you are a coin flip to two callers, maybe one of the limpers has a big hand, who knows....The only thing that seems likely here is that a lot of people at this table are going to blow out early, and you'll be in good shape to outplay them later.
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Old 03-18-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

Yes, easy fold for me.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

So, what should one call with? Obviously AA & KK. What about QQ? Actually I'd probably re-raise with AA & KK.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

At a $10 I push all three and I at least think about pushing before folding the jacks.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

With a $10 buy-in I'd push QQ.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

The guy who raised to 250 and the guy who called him either have huge hands or are total donkeys. Either way, you don't want to play a big hand early with JJ.
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Old 03-18-2005, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

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At a $10 I push all three and I at least think about pushing before folding the jacks.

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Old 03-18-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

Same as everyone else said. AA-KK easy easy push. I vascillated on the way I played QQ here, but settled on push as right. JJ fold.
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: JJ early stage, easy fold??

With a positive (i.e. not just a baseline assumption) donkey read on both the raiser and the cold-caller, I think this is a push at the $10s. Without these two reads, fold.

QQ and AK are both pushes with just the baseline donkey assumption.
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