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Old 03-17-2005, 10:14 AM
Raiser Raiser is offline
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Default Too soon?

Hey guys. I see there is another thread similar to this one already up, but in my cases its a little later. So, did I push too soon in these hands?

Party NL $11 SNGs for both.

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

UTG (t1235)
MP (t2030)
CO (t710)
Hero (t905)
SB (t1870)
BB (t1250)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls [t905] , <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls t605.

Flop: (t1055) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1055) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1055) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1055


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) converter

CO (t2770)
Hero (t925)
SB (t1490)
BB (t445)
UTG (t1155)
MP (t1215)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls [t925] , <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls [t445] t200.

Flop: (t300) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t300) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t300) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t300
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Old 03-17-2005, 10:24 AM
therock therock is offline
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Default Re: Too soon?

Hand 1 is basically a coin flip for me (push or fold), unless I had a read/stats on my oppoenent.

Hand 2 is an auto push. The only think you don't like is the BB is low on chips and will most likely call. A,8 is a
63% favorite vs. a random hand.
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Old 03-17-2005, 10:34 AM
Mammux Mammux is offline
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Default Re: Too soon?

I don't like the raise with hand 1. Most likely, if you're called, you're either a slight dog or a big dog, for all your chips. So unless the villain is an aggressive player that is stealing with trash from early position, this is a bad move.

Hand 2 is an easy push.

-Magnus
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Old 03-17-2005, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: Too soon?

Hand 1: Depends on my read of MP. If he is a loose raiser, this is an easy push. If he has played tight/solid poker than I think it is close...but still a push. Actually, the only way I fold this is if MP has been a rock. Judging by his chipstack, he is not. If you were the SB with T1800 chips, it would be a different story.

Hand 2: Push. Not as easy as it looks because you know you are getting called by the SB. But I think A8s is too good of a hand to fold here.
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Old 03-17-2005, 10:50 AM
TylerD TylerD is offline
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Default Re: Too soon?

I like the all-in for both hands, at the $11 level. At the $50 I'd be less comfortable with hand 1, but would probably still make the same move.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Too soon?

Hand 1 - Assuming you're one of the best at the table I think it's early enough to fold this unless you know the player is loose or aggressive(he likes to play Ax &amp; KQ like this). He's not going to fold many hands for 600 more and you're probably a slight dog...

Hand 2 - Pushing is fine here...what about calling then pushing the flop if they check or calling if they all in?
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