Pocket Kings on an AA board

theblitz · #1 03-16-2005, 10:17 AM

MP2 is a very loose player - recently added to my buddy list.
MP3 is newish to the table but also seems to be loosish (50% VPIP in 20 hands - not really a statistically viable number).

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) converter

UTG ($44)
UTG+1 ($27.05)
MP1 ($9.85)
MP2 ($25.25)
MP3 ($15.45)
CO ($25.9)
Button ($22.26)
SB ($32.15)
Hero ($47.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.75, MP2 calls $6, MP3 calls $6, Button folds.

Flop: ($22.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25.

Turn: ($22.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25.

River: ($23.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $1, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1.

Final Pot: $26.60

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd Kc (two pair, aces and kings).
MP2 has Td Th (two pair, aces and tens).
MP3 has Qs 5s (two pair, aces and fives) - wins place of honour on my buddy list.
Outcome: Hero wins $26.60. 

Obviously the flop scared me. Though, thinking back it reduces the chance that someone has pocket aces and not very likely someone is there with a single ace after my big pre-flop re-raise.
Should I have bet out the flop?

The Jack was a bit more scary because one of them could easily be sitting with Jacks.

So, did I get as much out as I could hope for?

LetYouDown · #2 03-16-2005, 10:29 AM

I would have checked and raised after the incredibly small bet into you on the flop, or a stop-and-go and bet out on the turn after calling. Something mediumish ~$4. Generally you'll know pretty quickly if someone has the A. Having a third player is a little sketchy. Basically, represent the A. Any opposition and slow way down.

MarkL444 · #3 03-16-2005, 11:15 AM

dont post results.

i wouldda raised the flop to at least 5. if mp2 overcalls you or reraises itll be easy to get away. basically id bet stronger until someone gave me reason not to.

AEKDBet · #4 03-16-2005, 11:37 AM

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I would have checked and raised after the incredibly small bet into you on the flop, or a stop-and-go and bet out on the turn after calling. Something mediumish ~$4. Generally you'll know pretty quickly if someone has the A. Having a third player is a little sketchy. Basically, represent the A. Any opposition and slow way down.

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Damn good advice

soah · #5 03-16-2005, 11:47 AM

I can't ever imagine a time when it would be appropriate to make a $4 raise into a $22 pot. You will still have no idea where you're at when you get called (except that you're probably behind), and you're out of position with two betting rounds left.

AEKDBet · #6 03-16-2005, 11:50 AM

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I can't ever imagine a time when it would be appropriate to make a $4 raise into a $22 pot.

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Whoopsie, he had me a mediumish. $4 is a great amount for someone to pay for draw against you.

LetYouDown · #7 03-16-2005, 12:12 PM

Yeah, completely miscalculated the pot. Either way, I'd definitely represent the A and slow way down if I don't win the pot right there.

theblitz · #8 03-16-2005, 02:31 PM

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dont post results.

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Post them later on?

LetYouDown · #9 03-16-2005, 02:38 PM

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dont post results.

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Post them later on?

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Seems to be the idea. It skews perception and makes reads easier. I personally don't mind posting them in "white", but it's all too tempting to look. The point is, the responses will be much more informative if we don't know the results prior to responding. It's always easiest to fold when you know you're beat.

theblitz · #10 03-16-2005, 02:55 PM

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It's always easiest to fold when you know you're beat.

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Don't we all know it!