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Old 03-15-2005, 10:22 PM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

***** Hand History for Game 1741714492 *****
NL Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:10423484 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Tuesday, March 15, 21:15:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 35013 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Bison76 ( $1088 )
Seat 2: d5mcnabb ( $503 )
Seat 4: DonPasta ( $1354 )
Seat 5: hambone35 ( $2095 )
Seat 6: XBASSMASTERX ( $2395 )
Seat 8: Bebop86 ( $905 )
Seat 9: Counterman ( $795 )
Seat 10: T_J_A_ ( $865 )
Trny:10423484 Level:5
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Bebop86 [ 8d 8c ]
hambone35 folds.
XBASSMASTERX raises [400].
Bebop86 folds.
Counterman folds.
T_J_A_ folds.
Bison76 folds.
d5mcnabb folds.
DonPasta folds.
XBASSMASTERX does not show cards.
XBASSMASTERX wins 700 chips

post away, id love to see some results.
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

Ick. I think it's a fold, but it certainly isn't clear. If you could isolate the original raiser, I think you're hand equity is close to 50%. Throw in the dead money, and it's close to the right play, but I think it falls just short, since you've no fold equity.

I am tempted to play a lot of hands against anybody with the name Bassmaster, however.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:07 PM
microbet microbet is offline
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

You have less than 5 BBs and they are coming up quick, plus he only minraised. Are you thinking minraise means strong hand or weak hand? Unless you think it means strong hand it looks like a push (to try and get HU) to me.
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Old 03-16-2005, 01:10 AM
SuitedSixes SuitedSixes is offline
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

I think you push and hope to win the race.
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Old 03-16-2005, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

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I think you push and hope to win the race.

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Old 03-16-2005, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

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I think you push and hope to win the race.

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POOOOOSH.
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Old 03-16-2005, 01:35 AM
SNOWBALL138 SNOWBALL138 is offline
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

Pushing seems like a fair option. If the chips were a little deeper between you and the raiser, AND your knew the SB and BB would fold to his raise, you would be better off calling, and then pushing the flop if no ace or king comes.
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Old 03-16-2005, 01:43 AM
SuitedSixes SuitedSixes is offline
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

There is no way he can call 400t with a 905t stack. He can't pull a Stop-And-Go with 505t in a 1100t pot. He would be offering 505t to 1605t. No pre-flop raiser is laying anything down to that
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:13 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: is 88 playable here, or is it a clear fold?

Was villain doing this often? This would change some of my assumptions? Without this pearly knowledge, I am thinking fold.
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