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03-09-2005, 04:52 PM
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is this push on the flop overkill?
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 10207444) - Tue Mar 08 12:41:17 EST 2005
Table Table 11532 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 2: second_chanc (1830) Seat 4: mena2430 (1865) Seat 5: noname24 (710) Seat 6: lotto145 (1180) Seat 7: luke1413 (1060) Seat 8: squire_ (1355) mena2430 posts small blind (25) noname24 posts big blind (50) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to squire_ [ Ac, Kc ] lotto145 raises (100) to 100 luke1413 folds. squire_ raises (325) to 325 second_chanc folds. mena2430 folds. noname24 folds. lotto145 calls (225) ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 2c, Ks ] lotto145 checks. squire_ bets (1030) squire_ is all-In. lotto145 folds. Creating Main Pot with $1755 with squire_ ** Summary ** Main Pot: 1755 Board: [ Th 2c Ks ] second_chanc balance 1830, didn't bet (folded) mena2430 balance 1840, lost 25 (folded) noname24 balance 660, lost 50 (folded) lotto145 balance 855, lost 325 (folded) luke1413 balance 1060, didn't bet (folded) squire_ balance 1755, bet 1355, collected 1755, net +400 no reads thus far table pretty loose though as per for a $10+1 just wondered if i could have got more out of this pot, your thoughts please 
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#2
03-09-2005, 05:01 PM
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Re: is this push on the flop overkill?
just wondered if i could have got more out of this pot, your thoughts please
Forgetting times that you are behind and times that you are outdrawn, as they are pretty much the same for both scenarios. You could probably get 200 chips or so on a regular basis, but you will get 850 or so often enough to cover this. Also 200 chips won't really have a huge bearing on the SNG as a whole, but 850 will entirely change your standing in this tournament. I think you played it correctly for a $11. Lori
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#3
03-09-2005, 05:12 PM
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Re: is this push on the flop overkill?
I would put about $200 out there on the flop.
An amazing number of people see that as a bluff 'representing a king'. You are trying to induce an all in that you will gladly call. The all-in happens about 1 in 4 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I would shut it down with an all in if there were obvious draws that I am worried about, but with this flop I am looking to get all the villians chips into the pot. Pokerscott
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#4
03-09-2005, 05:16 PM
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Re: is this push on the flop overkill?
I don't think it's unreasonable at all. Any decent sized bet is going to pretty much pot commit you anyway. I'd rather take the 700 chip pot now than give him the opportunity to draw out on you. You may be able to throw a small bet out there and extract a few more chips but I think you'll get called by KQ and KJ enough at the 10s to make this profitable.
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#5
03-09-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: is this push on the flop overkill?
Villian has about 850 chips after the flop, hero has 1000, and the pot is 725. I would bet about half of villian's chips (425) and hope to entice him to do something stupid. You are either way ahead or way behind, but either was you are pot committed. At the $10 level, you never know what type of bad play you will see and you want to give Villan a chance to make a bad play. Pushing reduces the chances of a bad play, betting half his stack increase the chances of a bad play.
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