15/30 KQ checked to on the river

kurosh · #1 03-04-2005, 10:07 AM

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $15.
4 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB raises, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ???

BB is loose. Not much else of a read.

This is a clear bet and fold to a check raise, right? He could easily have had a draw or a weak queen. I don't think two-pair or a set is checking to me on a river ace.

bakku · #2 03-04-2005, 10:25 AM

Not 3-betting the flop/raising the turn is bad.

kurosh · #3 03-04-2005, 10:46 AM

Why would I ever 3-bet the flop?

sfer · #4 03-04-2005, 10:52 AM

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Why would I ever 3-bet the flop?

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I would because I like money. Your reasons are your own.

kurosh · #5 03-04-2005, 10:53 AM

I guess I like more money because 3-betting the flop is a horrible play.

BottlesOf · #6 03-04-2005, 10:56 AM

No it's not. Not given your reads. He check-raised a late position pfr on the flop, don't be scurred.

chief444 · #7 03-04-2005, 11:04 AM

This is a pretty obvious "thin the field" type flop raise. Two pair or better would probably lead and hope to 3-bet. If you call the flop you at least need to raise the turn. But I would probably just 3-bet the flop.

Rico Suave · #8 03-04-2005, 11:05 AM

I will add a 4th voice to the 3-bet the flop or raise the turn chorus.

--Rico

edit: 5th voice now

kurosh · #9 03-04-2005, 11:07 AM

Him CRing decreases the chances of him having a draw. If he does have a draw, you want to pop him on the turn.

If he has some kind of a pair, he's drawing to 5 outs at best. If I 3-bet, he will shut down and go into calldown mode or CR me on the turn where I will be in an awkward spot. I want him to keep betting into me.

If he has two-pair or a set and is ahead of me, he will most likely call the 3-bet and CR me on the turn or cap the flop and lead the turn.

I lose the most when I am behind and gain the least when I am ahead if I 3-bet the flop. 3-betting the flop is a horrible play.

sfer · #10 03-04-2005, 11:09 AM

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I guess I like more money because 3-betting the flop is a horrible play.

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scrub is right.