Here's a Candidate for Slowplaying

waynethetrain · #1 03-03-2005, 03:54 PM

Not sure what I was thinking, but I cost myself a chance to make some extra money considering the flop was 3 suited an there were no connectors.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $1. Hero posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, MP1 (poster) checks, 1 fold, MP3 calls, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 2.75 BB

btspider · #2 03-03-2005, 03:56 PM

nice hand. checking closing the action when there are no second best hands to be made sucks.

davelin · #3 03-03-2005, 03:57 PM

If they weren't willing to pay for a 1SB, what makes you think they would've put in a full BB?

Entity · #4 03-03-2005, 03:57 PM

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If they weren't willing to pay for a 1SB, what makes you think they would've put in a full BB?

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Ding ding ding ding ding!

topspin · #5 03-03-2005, 03:58 PM

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Not sure what I was thinking

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"I need better table selection"? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Given you're last to act, I think the bet is fine. You realize that only one other person VPIP'd this hand, right? Chances are no one had jack all. If they aren't going to call for 1SB in a 5SB pot, what makes you think they would have called a turn bet of 1BB in a 2BB pot?

waynethetrain · #6 03-03-2005, 04:07 PM

>If they weren't willing to pay for a 1SB, what makes you think they would've put in a full BB? <

If the turn was an A, Q, J or even T and someone made a pair, they might have been tempted to bet the turn given that everyone checked the flop. Perhaps someone would have even tried a bluff. I didn't give them a chance to make a bettable hand or bluff. I was so far ahead and the pot was so small I wasn't risking much to slow play it. If the pot was raised pre flop and larger, then betting out is a much clearer choice.

davelin · #7 03-03-2005, 04:16 PM

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>If they weren't willing to pay for a 1SB, what makes you think they would've put in a full BB? <

If the turn was an A, Q, J or even T and someone made a pair, they might have been tempted to bet the turn given that everyone checked the flop. Perhaps someone would have even tried a bluff. I didn't give them a chance to make a bettable hand or bluff. I was so far ahead and the pot was so small I wasn't risking much to slow play it. If the pot was raised pre flop and larger, then betting out is a much clearer choice.

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A lot of those same players will peel one off the flop. You're being results-oriented, this bet here was perfectly fine.

phredd · #8 03-03-2005, 04:16 PM

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Given you're last to act, I think the bet is fine. You realize that only one other person VPIP'd this hand, right? Chances are no one had jack all. If they aren't going to call for 1SB in a 5SB pot, what makes you think they would have called a turn bet of 1BB in a 2BB pot?

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I agree with the poster. If everyone checks to you, check behind and give them a chance to pick up a pair, any pair. Some folks could run with that. If it's checked to you on the turn, check through to the river, too. You're way, way ahead. Let somebody hit something and let them believe you haven't. If they bet and you raise, they might even call that if they suspect you of trying to steal.

Poster is right - this almost demands a slow play.

shadow29 · #9 03-03-2005, 04:18 PM

When I think back on it, every concious decision I've made to slowplay has always backfired.

Slowplaying sucks.

davelin · #10 03-03-2005, 04:18 PM

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Poster is right - this almost demands a slow play.

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Ugh...