Outs with AK

Jim Shears · #1 03-03-2005, 01:13 PM

This is my third or fourth hand at the table, so no reads on BB or MP1.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

How many outs would you estimate for the overcards? Add 1.5 for the backdoor flush. Getting 10.5 to 1 here, a call seemed reasonable.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP1 calls, Hero...

Getting 7.2 to 1 seems to indicate a fold.

btspider · #2 03-03-2005, 01:21 PM

if you fold the turn, i like all streets.

Thigh · #3 03-03-2005, 01:34 PM

Folds...

JoshuaD · #4 03-03-2005, 01:47 PM

I want to raise this flop for the free card.

Chris Daddy Cool · #5 03-03-2005, 01:55 PM

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How many outs would you estimate for the overcards? Add 1.5 for the backdoor flush. Getting 10.5 to 1 here, a call seemed reasonable.

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Be careful when you say 1.5 for the bd flush here. you hold the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] not the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

pokerstudAA · #6 03-03-2005, 01:58 PM

Hero definately folds the turn.

I would seriously consider raising this flop and hopefully taking a free card on the turn. If a K or A or [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] comes on the turn I would bet again (hopefully it is the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]).

Knoler · #7 03-03-2005, 02:04 PM

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I want to raise this flop for the free card.

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davelin · #8 03-03-2005, 02:37 PM

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I want to raise this flop for the free card.

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I like just calling here. If raising gave me the opportunity to clean up overcard outs, I'd raise it up.