Overpair vs Aggressive vTPP

bungyrocks · #1 03-03-2005, 01:00 PM

villian is TPP VPIP: 7, PFR: 2

My question is: when do you give a tight player like this credit for a big hand?

My afterthought was to fold the turn. comments?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
UTG raises, 5 folds, Hero (poster) calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, Button folds, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.16 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG has Ah As (one pair, aces).
Hero has Jc Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins
12.16 BB.

PotatoStew · #2 03-03-2005, 01:27 PM

3 bet preflop and you'll have a better idea of where you are.

With a VPIP of 7, I imagine he probably has AA-QQ or AK if he's raising UTG. Based on his flop and turn aggression, you're probably beat.

Hellmouth · #3 03-03-2005, 01:28 PM

I waited to look until I put UTG on a hand. I was thinking probably AA or KK.

The question is, did you think that you were behind a higher pocket pair. If so did you think that your two J outs were going to help you? It is possible that Villian had AKs based on his VPIP, so you were behind AA,KK,QQ but not AK. However AK also had 6 outs to your two. Based on the read I might have folded the turn, since you had few cards and few outs to make it worth calling.

Greg

TMFS9 · #4 03-03-2005, 01:28 PM

Not raising preflop is pretty bad mistake. If you would of raised and it's capped back to you by a 2% preflop raiser, now you're only playing it for set value. I might raise the flop just to make sure he's not holding AK, but against this type of player if he only raises 2% of the time, guess what he's raising with.

Hellmouth · #5 03-03-2005, 01:29 PM

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3 bet preflop and you'll have a better idea of where you are.

With a VPIP of 7, I imagine he probably has AA-QQ or AK if he's raising UTG. Based on his flop and turn aggression, you're probably beat.

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I might also three bet preflop. then fold if you dont make your set.

Greg