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Old 03-03-2005, 12:13 PM
Kailia Marie Kailia Marie is offline
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Default First Hand Post, KQs

Hi guys,

This is my first hand post which I found interesting. Hopefully you guys won't hate it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Paradise Poker 5/10 9 players.

Player Reads:
SB - Slightly loose, will coldcall offsuit broadways preflop, but plays decently postflop.

BB - Unknown player. This is his very first hand at the table.

I am UTG+1 and raise K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP calls. Button calls. SB calls. BB calls.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players, 10 sb's)

SB bets. BB raises. I 3-bet. LP folds. Button folds. SB caps. BB calls. I call.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 11 bb's)

SB bets. BB calls. I call.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 14 bb's)

SB bets. BB folds. I fold too.

All comments welcome.

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Kailia
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

I know that you think you are beaten by a jack, but I would pay one more bet to see. Top two pair may be beaten but there are 14BB in the pot (including a lot of yours). You only need to win 1/15 times (~7%) to make this call correct. Are you more then 93% shure that you are beaten?

Btw. because of the heavy betting on the flop, a KT is a strong possibility. I might have folded it right there rather than getting into it for so many bets. But once you decided to play through the turn, you might as well call for value on the river.

Raising on the turn with two pair might also solidify your situation. If villian calls or reraises, you can be more sure that it is a straight draw. If villian also has a two pair, he/she might fold to a raise when a king comes out.

Greg
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

hey kailia,

hand looks good except the river. with your read on the small blind, couldn't he be playing QT this way? with a 15BB pot and closing the action, i find a call with top 2 pair and hope... i think you're good here 1 time in 15.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

I like it. I'm not paying him off on the river either.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

Ed Miller Post

Welcome! Hope to hear more from you. I would read this post. You're probably beat, but as it's already been stated here, you're good for a call in this large pot....pay off.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:29 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

i like your style.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:33 PM
QTip QTip is offline
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

Question here though...anyone wait for a rag (safe card)on the turn to raise (3 bet)? A gutshot already has insufficient odds to call..
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

I would call the river and expect to see QT a small percentage of the time. But it's close.

Nice flop 3 bet. Everything but the river looks pretty standard.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

[ QUOTE ]
Hi guys,

This is my first hand post which I found interesting. Hopefully you guys won't hate it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Paradise Poker 5/10 9 players.

Player Reads:
SB - Slightly loose, will coldcall offsuit broadways preflop, but plays decently postflop.

BB - Unknown player. This is his very first hand at the table.

I am UTG+1 and raise K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP calls. Button calls. SB calls. BB calls.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players, 10 sb's)

SB bets. BB raises. I 3-bet. LP folds. Button folds. SB caps. BB calls. I call.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 11 bb's)

SB bets. BB calls. I call.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 14 bb's)

SB bets. BB folds. I fold too.

All comments welcome.

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Kailia

[/ QUOTE ]

Once BB folds, I think you have to call the river.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: First Hand Post, KQs

[ QUOTE ]
Nice flop 3 bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

So, you're not waiting for a safe card to raise? Why 3 bet?
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