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Old 03-03-2005, 11:39 AM
Marquis Marquis is offline
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Default J8 in the BB

CO is lousy. No good read on MP3. Anyone do anything differently?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, SB folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: J8 in the BB

check the flop.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: J8 in the BB

3-bet the flop.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: J8 in the BB

Unless he is a known semi-bluffer, I'd consider a turn check raise.

How many hands out there could he raise the flop with but also have a nine?
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:47 AM
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3-bet the flop.

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Why?
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:49 AM
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3-bet the flop.

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Why?

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To put it simply, you are ahead here more times than not. If you are ahead 50.00000000000001% of the time, then a raise is correct.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: J8 in the BB

excessive flop 3-bet, imho. spew much?
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:54 AM
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excessive flop 3-bet, imho. spew much?

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You're right. I've never made any money at this game. I'm just an ATM for other players. I'll dispense with dispensing advice.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:58 AM
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A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:05 PM
Valentyn Valentyn is offline
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Default Re: J8 in the BB

No concerns that MP3 has AJ or KJ?

Or is the 3bet on the flop to look for folds or raises? I'm assuming (tell me if I'm wrong) that if MP3 raises the 3bet on the flop, you'd fold this?
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