A first for me

NoChance · #1 03-02-2005, 12:18 AM

For the first time in a VERY long time, I suspect something very wrong at a table I am playing at. There is a person at my table that has played 191 hands against me so far. THis person has a VP$IP of 62.3 and PFR of 21.47. This person has won 53.10% of all hands seeing the flop and has a won at showdown percent of 65.38%. This is at a $3-6 table and the person has won $766.50.

Now, the funny part is, this person is not getting great cards. It just knows when to stay with hands like 92o when the pair of twos is bottom pair and win.

What are the odds of someone winning 53% of their hands when seeing that high of a VI$IP? This person is not a maniac either. Post flop aggression is 1.58. It just knows when bottom pair is good, etc.

I am ashamed I am even typing this but I have NEVER seen anything like this.

(Now up $802 after 198 hands as I typed this)

emonrad87 · #2 03-02-2005, 12:23 AM

Uh, so what?

Yeknom58 · #3 03-02-2005, 12:30 AM

Oooo it's a bot or somehow magically cheating.....whooooo...oooooooo. This is like the ghost made out of the bedsheet scary.

NoChance · #4 03-02-2005, 12:33 AM

Go away. You don't think I know how silly this sounds? I just think winning 67.8 BB/100 after 213 hands in a limit game (up $866 now) is a but rediculous and for the first time in my life I wonder if it is legit.

Uglyowl · #5 03-02-2005, 12:36 AM

Let us know what site this is so I can add it to my rigged list.

Seriously though this happens. You will not find a good player winning this much cuz' they don't play enough hands. Your big winners and big losers are the maniacs.

NoChance · #6 03-02-2005, 12:36 AM

Go ahead. Poke fun. I probably deserve it. But know, I asked what the odds were and have not accused, but the thoughts are there for the first time.

lorinda · #7 03-02-2005, 12:39 AM

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Anyone ignoring these stats when someone cries bot, will eventually come unstuck.

Anyone with the reputation of a poster like No Chance is not saying this for no reason.

It's 99.9% likely that it's just a huge statistical fluctuation, but how do you think we caught out places like Pro-Poker?

Despite being one of the staunchest defenders of the "It's not rigged you moron" club, anyone who habitually brushes off ALL cries of "Cheat/Bot/Collusion" is one day likely to walk into a big surprise.

Lori

pokerrookie · #8 03-02-2005, 12:44 AM

How about posting his name so others can check their PT stats and see if he has been doing this over a larger number of hands? I know that is frowned upon, but for the good of the game...

NoChance · #9 03-02-2005, 12:51 AM

Forget I posted. This is getting nowhere.

*and I should have known that

pokerrookie · #10 03-02-2005, 01:00 AM

I think it is important to post these kinds of things, and do the research required to prove one way or the other. Remember the suspected bot from a couple days ago. The OP there could have been dismissed as being paranoid as well.