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Old 02-26-2005, 11:50 AM
swolfe swolfe is offline
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Default AKo pairs flop, call the check-raise?

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP3 ($61.2)
CO ($47.1)
Hero ($50)
SB ($34.05)
BB ($256.6)
UTG ($48.75)
UTG+1 ($51.4)
UTG+2 ($63.55)
MP1 ($48)
MP2 ($56.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $5, MP2 calls $5.

Flop: ($22.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls $49.05 (All-In), Hero ???

no read, so i'm thinking that i'm beat. still, with stacks this short and the pot laying me 3:1, is this a call or fold?
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Old 02-26-2005, 12:20 PM
MyMindIsGoing MyMindIsGoing is offline
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Default Re: AKo pairs flop, call the check-raise?

My experience is that in low stakes PL games like this a big raise after a raise preflop like that means a set.
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Old 02-26-2005, 12:28 PM
TrailofTears TrailofTears is offline
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Default Re: AKo pairs flop, call the check-raise?

My guess is he expects you to bet this flop, so he might not respect your bet, but it doesn't matter to him since he picked up a diamond draw and is making a strong (?) semibluff. I call here and expect to see KQ/KJd.

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Old 02-26-2005, 12:30 PM
krazyace5 krazyace5 is offline
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Default Re: AKo pairs flop, call the check-raise?

I agree with Mymindisgoing, seems like this is what I usually run into.
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Old 02-27-2005, 01:14 AM
swolfe swolfe is offline
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Default Re: AKo pairs flop, call the check-raise?

villain did indeed have a set of 4's.
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Old 02-27-2005, 02:01 AM
jhall23 jhall23 is offline
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Default Re: AKo pairs flop, call the check-raise?

Yeah that's tough to let go with the stacks. He just called 5 more pre-flop after re-raise of his min-raise. If he was good I would expect a high PP (well maybe not that good if he only min-raised) as he wasn't priced in very good to hit a set, but his betting is typical PP set betting. Most at PP would probably bump back with AA,KK. I would probably call but not feel that great about it. There could be a chance he has top pair/draw or a lower PP.

After seeing results on this hand I would probably bump up my re-raises in a situation like this in the future to make him pay even more to flop a set. Doesn't seem like he takes stack sizes into consideration when calling a raise.
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:34 AM
fimbulwinter fimbulwinter is offline
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Default Re: AKo pairs flop, call the check-raise?

you're either kind of behind or way behind

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