50PL Am I Playing Scared?

nickey009 · #1 02-25-2005, 12:19 PM

My read was that I really didn't think he had a Q and my check on the river was to try and induce a bluff. A min-raise on the turn is a sign that he probably has the Q right?

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) converter

Hero ($70.9)
CO ($41.6)
Button ($67.85)
SB ($105)
BB ($78.35)
UTG ($64.15)
UTG+1 ($68.8)
UTG+2 ($39.35)
MP1 ($13.4)
MP2 ($124.1)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG folds.

Flop: ($10.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($10.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises to $14, Hero calls $7.

River: ($38.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $23.6 (All-In), Hero calls $23.60.

Final Pot: $85.70

spoohunter · #2 02-25-2005, 12:20 PM

You certainly aren't playing scared lol... I could to the turn min raise.

nickey009 · #3 02-25-2005, 12:26 PM

Okay, maybe not playing scared but playing stupid? I'm very easily beaten here by any Q. Is it a hand I should just get away from when QQ shows on the flop?

spoohunter · #4 02-25-2005, 12:30 PM

I would say yes to stupid. A general rule of mine is that if takes only 1 card in your opponents hand to beat you, you should not be putting alot of money in.

nickey009 · #5 02-25-2005, 01:08 PM

Where's Amoeba? I haven't seen him for a while.

Raiser · #6 02-25-2005, 01:13 PM

You should bet this flop.

If he calls or raises then you should be done putting money in this pot unless you spike your set on the turn.

DoomSlice · #7 02-25-2005, 01:20 PM

Well if you're not dead on the flop then you're most certainly dead on the river.

nickey009 · #8 02-25-2005, 02:11 PM

In previous hands with this guy he seemed to call my raises and then fold to my bets on subsequent streets. I felt like by checking early made me seem weak and he saw this as a chance to finally push me out of a pot. Is my read just wrong? Should I not rely on it so much?

nickey009 · #9 02-25-2005, 03:26 PM

Maybe it's just because I felt like I had a read on him or something but I called his river all-in and he has A9s. Not even spades but hearts. My JJ is good but I gotta' wonder if I was just lucky here. I just "knew" he didn't have a Q. When the river came out a 3 I hardly even considered something like A3.

maldini · #10 02-25-2005, 04:22 PM

i dont know how everyone else feels, but i dont like to raise with JJ from this early. in my mind, if i'm likely to get 2 or more callers to any raise then JJ is just a midpair. You're going to see an overcard the vast majority of the time and these people are likely to play alot of hands with a Q, K or A even to a MP raise. Also, when they hit it they wont be scared of their kicker b/c they suck.

There is no such think as isolation at SSNL.

IMO, the check isnt bad on the flop but you have to be prepared for the bluff. i would check/call b/c i typically think they will bet less than i would so i can keep the pot smaller that way. many players would play a set this way so there is some small level of deception too. also, if i bet he could raise and i wont know if he's making a move on me or not but it would be a big pot either way.