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Old 02-25-2005, 09:48 AM
spoohunter spoohunter is offline
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Default Top set against massive overbet, pokerstars .05/.10

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) converter

BB ($7.60)
UTG ($9.80)
MP ($5.40)
Button ($6.05)
Hero ($10.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.4</font>, BB calls $0.40, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $9.7</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $9.30, BB folds.
Final Pot: $20.20


Should I call here? Fold? TY in advance. No reads as I'm 5 tabling.
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:07 AM
gulebjorn gulebjorn is offline
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Default Re: Top set against massive overbet, pokerstars .05/.10

I would raise PF, but since you hit your top set, i think calling on the flop is good. Even if he flopped a straight, there's always a good chance the board will pair.
Not sure about the math, this could be -EV, but i'd definitely call.
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:20 AM
pho75 pho75 is offline
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Default Re: Top set against massive overbet, pokerstars .05/.10

I can't see anyone but the biggest chump calling the BB UTG with T7 or 57. It seems much more likely he has something like a big draw or even a lower set. I'd call in a second.
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Top set against massive overbet, pokerstars .05/.10

If you absolutely knew that he had a straight then a call would be -EV. Worst case scenario for you is that he has either the 5c7c or Tc7c and then you are about 30% to win. Without the clubs but with the straight you are about 35%. Considering he could easily be making the same move with a lower set or some huge draw I think this is an easy call.
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: Top set against massive overbet, pokerstars .05/.10

Without a read I'm calling this everytime. They could have a straight, two pair, a lower set, or even a club draw. Maybe even an overpair.
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Old 02-25-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: Top set against massive overbet, pokerstars .05/.10

I called, and the running threes that came on the turn and river made me feel better (but still pretty dumb) because he flashed 107 as he tossed it in the much (well figuratively as it was online). I may be results oriented, but I rarely see these massive over bets without the nuts, or close to it. The worst hand I could see here would be a lower set.
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Old 02-25-2005, 09:45 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Top set against massive overbet, pokerstars .05/.10

I've definitely seen two pair and AA here plenty of times. I would almost never muck top set at these stakes.
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