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Old 02-25-2005, 01:46 AM
curtains curtains is offline
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Default $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

...your move


***** Hand History for Game 1643960136 *****
200/400 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 9869789) - THU FEB 24 23:56:44 EST 2005
Table Table 17029 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: nanonoko (3100)
Seat 6: onlynamerica (465)
Seat 8: socalcub (3575)
Seat 9: curtainz (1840)
Seat 10: ksenya (1020)
socalcub posts small blind (100)
curtainz posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to curtainz [ 7d, Ac ]
ksenya folds.
nanonoko folds.
onlynamerica folds.
socalcub raises (300) to 400
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Old 02-25-2005, 02:28 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

Any reads at all?

How much stealing is going on?

Your not getting much equity for pushing and him folding.

I would flat call and push on any ace.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:32 AM
Elektrik Elektrik is offline
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

Given that SB only has 600 behind and is almost sure to call, I fold this. Yes, you're probably ahead, but it's almost certainly not by much and it would be terrible to get in there if you're behind. You still have 8BB after folding, so you have some room to breathe.

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I would flat call and push on any ace.

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This is bad advice. You plan to call 1/9th of your stack and check the 83% of the time your ace doesn't come? A stop and go, ie calling and pushing any flop, would be much better here than this, as now your opponent will have a tough decision the 67% of the time the flop misses him (assuming he doesn't have a pair).

I'd put the order as

fold > push > stop n go > call and push any ace

although I can see how stop n go could be better than pushing.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:34 AM
Seadood228 Seadood228 is offline
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

Without reads I think it's tough.

I disagree with the previous post on both counts. Against a decent player I think you do have folding equity if you push. It's 1400+ out of his remaining 3100 chips to call. Losing this allin will drop him from chip leader to 3rd position.

Your opponent has a big stack + he's in the SB which takes away from some of the credibility of his raise (or just the opposite ) You are in a good but not great position to cash, but your position in relation to the big stacks suck + you have a desperate shortstack on your button, meaning you will have a tough time stealing from there.

If you are called, you are most certainly in a lot of trouble, but personally I think that the number of times you get a fold + your odds of sucking out + the table dynamics make it slightly profitable play to push. I might not be giving the BS enough credit, but he's in the perfect steal position with the perfect steal stack.

Of course this is in the absense of any player reads. And I would MUCH rather make that move with KQ or QJ.

Calling is another option, but I'm not quite sure what type of flops you are looking for. If you had more BBs in relation to the blinds, I'd prefer calling and trying to outplay my opponent from there.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise


You obviously have folding equity, anyone who says you don't is playing poker on a different planet.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:44 AM
Elektrik Elektrik is offline
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

That'll teach me to read the post carefully...For some reason I thought the guy with 1000 chips min raised.

In this case, a push definitely is a much more viable option, but again I think it's close, and read dependent. If big stack's been raising a lot, I'm much more inclined to come over the top here, but if he's been quite tight I'll generally fold.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

I fold instead of pushing.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:09 AM
kdotsky kdotsky is offline
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

If I'm in his situation and I wan't to steal I'd minraise because it's very tough for you to just call and he can still safely fold if you push. If I had a big ace I'd rather just push on you than min-raise. If I had a monster I may call, min-raise, or push depending. But he's not me, and I'm not a $215 player [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] So I think you can push and have some decent folding equity.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

Push. I'd also rather call than fold.
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:23 AM
ZeeJustin ZeeJustin is offline
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Default Re: $215 - A7 in BB facing SB min raise

I push, however, I do think it's very close between push and call (I think a fold is pretty terrible).
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