ATs Early, PP 100

Elektrik · #1 02-24-2005, 09:02 PM

I don't know if I like my play here. The min bet/call is usually the sign of a draw. I would have bet the turn without the second caller. Thoughts?

Party Poker $100

MP1 (t925)
MP2 (t1065)
MP3 (t1025)
CO (t960)
Button (t800)
SB (t1135)
Hero (t1295)
UTG (t950)
UTG+1 (t975)
UTG+2 (t870)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP3 calls t30, 1 fold, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t150) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets t30, Button folds, SB calls t30, Hero raises to t150, MP1 folds, MP3 calls t120, SB calls t120.

Turn: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

River: (t600) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: t600

curtains · #2 02-24-2005, 09:17 PM

I hate the flop play. I don't even call for 30 there, but it's possible that's too tight.

bones · #3 02-24-2005, 09:55 PM

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I think that's definitely too tight. I don't think I jack it up to 150, but you have middle pair (a good one), top kicker and a backdoor flush draw in a hand where nobody has shown any strength pre-flop. I don't think that someone is gonna blow you out of the water with a huge bet on the flop or turn here.

curtains · #4 02-24-2005, 10:00 PM

Yeah you are probably right that it's bad to fold.

Elektrik · #5 02-24-2005, 10:04 PM

I'm definitely not folding this for 30 into a 210 pot. I agree the flop raise is questionable.

curtains · #6 02-24-2005, 10:08 PM

Yea yea you got me, I wouldnt fold either. I'd fold if it was 60 and someone called however.

Elektrik · #7 02-24-2005, 11:14 PM

MP3 flipped over 8d5d, and SB flipped over KQo, and MHIG.

bones · #8 02-24-2005, 11:30 PM

More proof that nobody ever folds flush draws. Ever. Never ever never.

astahl · #9 02-24-2005, 11:31 PM

What would you have done if MP3 made a moderate bet to play for the pot? Since you were the aggressor I think it makes sense you could also bet on the river to protect against this, no? I also agree that you were correct not to fold after the flop, although I don't think I would have bet that much.

bones · #10 02-24-2005, 11:39 PM

They can't make a play on him at the river for these reasons: He's representing a big jack. If they had an overpair or AJ, they pop him back on the flop. If they think they are outkicked, they want a cheap showdown. He's calling a moderate bet because his hand hasn't changed since the flop..he thought he was ahead then, he still feels he's ahead now.