oh-no, I have to play post-flop?!?

[dfscott]

I didn't have much of a read on Button, but the two smooth calls worried me. I feel like I got into no-man's land with my flop bet. I didn't give any decent pot odds to draw, but it wasn't particularly intimidating either.

Would a flop push have been better here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t675)
Button (t1390)
SB (t2010)
BB (t775)
UTG (t875)
MP1 (t1310)
MP2 (t965)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, Button calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, Button calls t200.

Turn: (t775) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t325 (All-in)</font>, Button calls t325.

[The Yugoslavian]

Feel free to muck preflop.

Yugoslav

[ChrisV]

Yes, push the flop, but it doesn't really matter. Fine other than that.

[curtains]

I don't like to fold preflop. Sometimes you have to just play poker. AJ in the cutoff seat is too strong a holding to profitably fold.

[curtains]

Id push on the flop too...Board slightly too scary for my tastes. If it was A93 or something, then I'd be much more happy to encourage action.

[The Yugoslavian]

[ QUOTE ]

Sometimes you have to just play poker. AJ in the cutoff seat is too strong a holding to profitably fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you sure this is one of those 'sometimes'? Also, it certainly isn't too strong of a holding to fold in the CO.

As for 'profitably' folding this it's probably not CEV maximizing but at level 3 in a PP SNG you'd be hard pressed to exceed the $EV considerations of folding by much.

You're right, sometimes you have to 'just play poker.' It doesn't make sense to me that this is one of them.

Yugoslav
(who doesn't ever like to 'play poker' [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

[SuitedSixes]

I'm on the fold pre-flop side of this. However, if you think that AJ is strong enough to warrant raising pre-flop then when you get an A high flop, you've got to go with it. If you are not going to be happy with an A high flop, fold next time.

[Irieguy]

[ QUOTE ]

I don't like to fold preflop. Sometimes you have to just play poker. AJ in the cutoff seat is too strong a holding to profitably fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dude, where do you come up with some of the stuff you write?

Irieguy

[curtains]

Man you have Ace Jack on the cutoff seat. I understand that sit and go's/limit holdem and multi table tournaments all have completely different strategies, but folding AJo on the cutoff here is just too far off base for my tastes.


(In limit holdem folding AJo when folded to in the cutoff would be tantamount to simply throwing money in the trash. In a multitable I can't imagine it ever being correct under normal circumstances. It's obviously a closer decision here, but I don't think it's close enough to make a fold the correct play.)

[GauchoFish]

i'd have checked the turn...he's not really gonna call an all-in without beating you...if he moves in on the river i'd scratch my head, mumble something about pot-ouds to my moniter and call, and immediately buy back in to another tournament.