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I hate 88
Such a weak hand.
No reads. Pacific Poker 0.5/1 (10 players) Hero is MP3 with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] EP1 calls, <font color="red"> EP2 raises</font> , EP3 calls, 2 folds, <font color="blue"> Hero??</font> I'm getting 2.5 to 1 for this. Worth a call? |
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Re: I hate 88
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I'm getting 2.5 to 1 for this. [/ QUOTE ] You're getting 3.25:1 and I would fold. This is dependant on my reads on the players to act behind me. If they like coldcalling, I would consider calling. |
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88 can be good
88 Can be okay at times, this was the best table i've seen in weeks, 4 or 5 total lunatics, btw i fold that one also.
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.75. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (13.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls. River: (17.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls. Final Pot: 29.75 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> MP3 has 2c Qs (flush, ace high). Hero has 8d 8h (full house, eights full of nines). Outcome: Hero wins 29.75 BB. </font> Regards Mack |
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Re: 88 can be good
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88 Can be okay at times, this was the best table i've seen in weeks, 4 or 5 total lunatics, btw i fold that one also. Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.75. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (13.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls. River: (17.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls. Final Pot: 29.75 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> MP3 has 2c Qs (flush, ace high). Hero has 8d 8h (full house, eights full of nines). Outcome: Hero wins 29.75 BB. </font> Regards Mack [/ QUOTE ] I'd raise preflop in your hand in a heartbeat. Rob |
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Re: I hate 88
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Such a weak hand. No reads. Pacific Poker 0.5/1 (10 players) Hero is MP3 with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] EP1 calls, <font color="red"> EP2 raises</font> , EP3 calls, 2 folds, <font color="blue"> Hero??</font> I'm getting 2.5 to 1 for this. Worth a call? [/ QUOTE ] Folding is prudent with no reads. I sometimes 3-bet, but it's always with a read, knowing what my postflop plan is against said player. Rob |
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Re: I hate 88
One more caller (or coldcaller) and I call. As is, I fold.
Brad |
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Re: 88 can be good
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I'd raise preflop in your hand in a heartbeat. [/ QUOTE ] Haha you always find some fundamental flaw in my hands man. Question - Am I raising here because i have a preflop edge that needs pushing, or because it would tie people to the pot for when i hit my sets. Also how would raising affect the way I need to play post flop when I miss, I mean I can fold when i don't hit if i check here, but if i raise i assume I need to go hard after some favourable flops such as 1 overcard or perhaps even no overcards. I would be interested in anything you have to say on this. Regards Mack |
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Re: 88 can be good
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[ QUOTE ] I'd raise preflop in your hand in a heartbeat. [/ QUOTE ] Haha you always find some fundamental flaw in my hands man. Question - Am I raising here because i have a preflop edge that needs pushing, or because it would tie people to the pot for when i hit my sets. Also how would raising affect the way I need to play post flop when I miss, I mean I can fold when i don't hit if i check here, but if i raise i assume I need to go hard after some favourable flops such as 1 overcard or perhaps even no overcards. I would be interested in anything you have to say on this. Regards Mack [/ QUOTE ] All of the above to an extent, but you forgot the most important one: position. Rob |
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Re: I hate 88
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You're getting 3.25:1 and I would fold. [/ QUOTE ] Ahh, I never thought about including the SB and BB. Thanks for the heads up. I'm leaning towards fold. Lee Jones said I should "Call... with a few players in". |
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Re: 88 can be good
Got you, next time i am in a similar position i make sure i raise, I forgot I posted on the button here, shame on me.
Thanks Mack |
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