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PP, .50/1, typical full table. Cut-off is a little tighter than average LL player (which basically means he's not insane).
I raise with JJ UTG. Everyone folds except CO, who calls. 2.75 BB, 2 players Flop is 2s 9h 6d. I bet, figuring to be best here. CO calls. 3.75 BB, 2 players Turn is Ace of diamonds. I bet looking for info, planning to fold if raised. CO just calls. 5.5 BB, 2 players River is the Ten of Hearts. No flush, straight possible with 78. I bet, again looking for info. CO calls. My thoughts throughout this hand were that I needed to give this guy every reason to fold, and if I encountered resistance once the Ace came, I would get the heck out of Dodge. Perhaps a check-raise on the flop would have been more powerful, but I had no reason to believe that he would bet. I don't like a check-raise on the turn, because a bet from him could very well be an ace. The CO? He had AcQc. Was he fearing AK or AA? I would have raised on the turn or river in his shoes. With no raise to let me know what he had, did I do the right thing? |
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I think you played it fine, except possibly the bet on the river, but its close, if this guy will call with any part of the flop then you bet. If the call on the turn screams ace, check. I spend most of my time on paradise betting everyone elses hand so I knopw how frustrating it can be.
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Let's say your opponent puts you on the following range of hands (this read would be supported by the fact that you bet on every street)...
AA-99, AK, AQ, AJ, ATs. Can you see how much he stands to lose with a raise on the river, especially if you'd fold KK, QQ, and JJ half the time, and re-raise with AA, TT, 99, ATs every time and AK half the time (I'm also assuming you'd never fold AQ and never fold or re-raise with AJ and that he'd call half the times you re-raised)? Does anyone think these assumptions are fallacious? A raise is worth -.20BB by my count. Also, unless you'd check-fold the river the vast majority of times you were beaten, he played the turn as though he could read both your mind and your cards. |
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Seems to me he played it perfectly.
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There is no right answer here. In hindsight..No you did not do the right thing, you should have check-folded the turn, but you couldn't know that. So you did what a lot of us do, keep betting until you meet some aggression. A lot of times it works. If he had K9 or AT he will pay you off.
His play was somewhat timid, but not necessarily wrong. AQs is one hand that I will consider cold-calling a raise with. calling the flop bet is ok too I think. Now his A hits (He'd probably prefer a Q) and you keep betting. If he raises and you have AK he's going to lose 2 extra bets so he lets you bet it for him. Not a bad play. The only chance you have to improve on this is to have a better read on your opponent. Keep notes on how they play, and you'll have a better idea of whether they will stay with a worse hand. You did describe him as somewhat tight, so is it likely he doesn't have an A? |
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I think checking, planning to call a bet on the river might be the better play.
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Actually, I didn't say he was tight, I just said he was tighter than the usual LL PP player - I figured if he had an ace, I'd see a raise somewhere. If I were him, I'd want to raise the turn to see how serious my opponent was. But that's me and not him. I think I lost the minimum here, so I'm not too upset - just trying to get some different ideas on how to play this sort of situation. I definitely need to work on hand reading while playing the hand - a lot of my reasoning takes longer than I have to make a decision.
Thanks everyone |
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#9
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Seems to me he played it perfectly.
It seems to me that he played it horribly. Specifically, he shouldn't be calling an EP raise with AQs in a pot which looks to be 3-handed at best and probably heads-up. The suited nature of the hand is negligible in these situations. Then, he made a call on the flop with what is probably a dominated hand with absolutely no draw. He should have folded again. |
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You are leaving too many bets on the table by not betting on later streets simply because an overcard to your big pocket pair comes on the turn or river.
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