Bankroll Help

redsoxsox · #1 02-16-2005, 11:26 PM

When is the best time to move up in bankroll. I have $250 right now in my bankroll and I play 5.50 sng's. Should i e moving up or wait till $300 or more.

ZebraAss · #2 02-16-2005, 11:28 PM

How long have you been playing. Do you play 1 tournament at a time?

wiggs73 · #3 02-16-2005, 11:30 PM

More importantly, are you a winning player at the 5.50's? Generally, if you're winning at that level, you probably could be winning at the 11s as well.

ZebraAss · #4 02-16-2005, 11:33 PM

No that is not more important. If you make 1 cent for every tournament over 20,000 tournaments and now are at 250 bucks you are a winning player at 5+.5 but there is no way to know where you stand at 10+1. There is no way you can tell if you are a winning player by how much $ you have. You need # of T's.

Details. From the info you stated I say that you play 5+.5 until you have 1,000.

wiggs73 · #5 02-16-2005, 11:42 PM

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If you make 1 cent for every tournament over 20,000 tournaments and now are at 250 bucks you are a winning player at 5+.5 but could be a losing player at 10+1

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Pardon my lack of details. When I say winning player, I don't mean having a .0018% ROI over 20,000 SNGs. With this in mind, if you started at like $50 bucks and ran it up to $250 with not much trouble, you are likely a 'winning' player at this level. I realize that would be a short term gain, and often short term gains aren't a great measure of success, but having played both levels we are talking about, as well as 20+2s, I can tell you there isn't much of a difference in skill levels between the 5.50s and the 11s. I say build up just a bit more, maybe to 300 and take a shot at the 11s. If you lose back down to say 200, move back down.

ZebraAss · #6 02-16-2005, 11:48 PM

Well having experience in the 5+1...and up to the 200+15. I can tell you right now that there is a difference. He should stay where he is. Until he has at least $500. If he turned 50 into 250 with strictly 5.5 tournaments he has a lot of self control and should build a rock solid bankroll so he can move up with out any hurdles.

Why go into the hot tub when the pool is already warm, whether you peed in it or not.

wiggs73 · #7 02-17-2005, 12:03 AM

I will stand by my statement that the 11s are not much harder to beat than the 5.50s. This in mind, here is what you SHOULD do...

Play 5.50's until at you have a bankroll of at least $550 (50 buy-ins at the 10+1 level). You'll gain experience and a more stable bankroll this way. If you lose down to $275, move back to the 5.50s (275 = 50 buy-ins at this level). Obviously, the more bankroll you have, the less risk you run of going broke. You don't need a 10+1er or a 200+15er to tell you this.

What I was saying is that if you're a good player, you'll probably be safe to take a shot now. Don't confuse "take a shot" with "play till you go broke". Lots of people take shots. Some result in 3-5 immediate losses, an ego check, and a move back down to the previous level. Some result in a nice win streak and they never look back. I wouldn't advise moving up on a weak bankroll if you were considering a move to from the 33s to the 55s. There's a rather large difference in skill level there and you will more than likely need a proper bankroll to make such a jump. And while there is a difference in skill between any 2 levels, it will be much less drastic between the 5.50s and the 11s. If you feel like you're playing the 5.50s well, I say build up a bit more money, and play a few 11s. Some would disagree. I guess choose your side on this one. I'm certainly not going to advise against taking ZebraAss' advice, as it is much safer, but again, I think you could at least play a few at a higher level and see how the competition is and how you do.

ZebraAss · #8 02-17-2005, 12:09 AM

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]Where is this guy...

...I still want to know details. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

redsoxsox · #9 02-17-2005, 10:32 PM

Im a winning player on SNGs. Have a good percentage of in the moneys and have played well over 100. Cant say the same for cash games though. I think I will play a few more 5.50 sngs then take a stab at the 10+1 sngs.

PDX_David · #10 02-17-2005, 10:40 PM

I have only played 5.50s - 22s.

Why not just take a shot at the 10+1 here and there, see how it feels to you. Just because you play one 10+1 doesn't mean you have to play all 10+1s from then on. Plus, every table is different. You will run in to nut jobs at all levels. Some of the tightest SnG's I have played have been at the 5.50 level. Your not going to go broke playing a couple of 10s.

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