AKs on level 1

dfscott · #1 02-15-2005, 02:23 AM

I so rarely play post-flop, I was a little confused here. After the all-in, I felt like I had to call. Did I do this to myself by betting too much on the flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (7 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero (t1600)
MP2 (t695)
CO (t920)
Button (t2455)
SB (t415)
BB (t790)
UTG (t1125)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, Hero raises to t75, 1 fold, CO calls t75, 3 folds, UTG raises to t135, Hero calls t60, CO calls t60.

Flop: (t425) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t500, CO folds, UTG raises to t990 (all-in), Hero calls t490.

ZBTHorton · #2 02-15-2005, 02:33 AM

Well I'm going to assume you ran into a set and lost the hand by the way your talking.

I think everything looks just fine, you just caught a bad beat. In level 1..TPTK is generally a VERY strong hand...remember those two-three random guys per SNG who go all in on the first 5 hands? This guy might be one of those guys.

raptor517 · #3 02-15-2005, 02:35 AM

the way your opponent played that screams AA to me. when utg limp raises the minimum, and check raises all in on the flop, i just see aces. after betting 500, there was no way you could fold though.. im curiuos as to what he had

dfscott · #4 02-15-2005, 02:40 AM

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the way your opponent played that screams AA to me.

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No more calls -- we have a winner.

gh9801 · #5 02-15-2005, 02:50 AM

I didn't like the flop bet of 500, especially with the minimum utg limp reraise. The only drawing hand you are afraid of here is AQs, which UTG most likely won't have but CO may have. After the preflop play though even with TPTK you can't be sure you have the best hand so I would have thrown in a testing bet of maybe 300 or checked. You shouldn't worry about the spades, you should be worrying about UTG. Either way, I think you can't avoid doubling him up.

AA suited · #6 02-15-2005, 01:42 PM

you raised 5xBB preflop, and villian min re-raised. he wanted you to call. that screams qq+.

since you bet 500 on the flop, you couldnt get away from the hand since it only costs you 490 more to call his raise.

on the flop, i would have bet 3/4 pot incase someone's drawing and to see where i stand. at 300 chips, it's easier to fold when faced with calling 2x (690) more at lvl1.

MonkeeMan · #7 02-15-2005, 01:47 PM

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I so rarely play post-flop

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Why is this? Seems limited.

dfscott · #8 02-15-2005, 01:51 PM

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I so rarely play post-flop

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Why is this? Seems limited.

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Because I tend to fold everything but monsters and PP in the early rounds. I don't get monsters that often and I fold any PP that don't flop sets.

By the late rounds, I'm stealing blinds or going all-in/folding post-flop, due to the 40% rule.

MonkeeMan · #9 02-15-2005, 02:28 PM

I'm surprised that you can be successful without playing those majority of hands that aren't monsters. It would seem that you would be folding a lot of hands like TPTK or TPGK as well as semi-bluff and overcards that could be profitable.

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By the late rounds, I'm stealing blinds or going all-in/folding post-flop, due to the 40% rule.

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What's the 40% rule?

dfscott · #10 02-15-2005, 02:35 PM

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I'm surprised that you can be successful without playing those majority of hands that aren't monsters. It would seem that you would be folding a lot of hands like TPTK or TPGK as well as semi-bluff and overcards that could be profitable.

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Perhaps I am too tight. In the early rounds, I fold everything except pocket pairs and AQ+. In LP, I add ATs+, KQs, QJs, and JTs. I won't play anything against a raise except for AA, KK, QQ, and AK.

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What's the 40% rule?

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If any call or bet would be 40% of your stack or more, just push all-in.