Did I over bet

Mobed · #1 02-14-2005, 06:32 PM

What would have been a better play on the flop. I didn't want anyone on a flush draw.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

BB ($35.73)
UTG ($67.6)
Hero ($58.13)
Button ($33.5)
SB ($3.8)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB calls $2.80 (All-In), BB folds, UTG raises to $5.6, Hero raises to $20, Button folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($33.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($33.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $33.40

Results in white below: 
Hero has Th Qd (straight, queen high).
SB has Qs 9s (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $33.40.

tbach24 · #2 02-14-2005, 06:36 PM

No, but you did play an awful hand preflop.

Mobed · #3 02-14-2005, 06:39 PM

I was small blind. See the flop at 1/2 price. or still a bad pf play?

Edit: I was SB not mp my mistake

xorbie · #4 02-14-2005, 06:41 PM

10Q isn't horrible 5 way in decent position, especially if you think you can see the flop for cheap.

I'm not sure about this. It certainly looks like UTG is trying to isolate against SB, and is trying not to give odds to a draw. So really, I wouldn't expect him to have the flush draw. I think a reraise of maybe $10 might be more apropriate.

tbach24 · #5 02-14-2005, 06:42 PM

Original post says that you were MP. I am not sure whether I would complete with QTo in SB. Definetly BB but maybe not SB in this game.

tbach24 · #6 02-14-2005, 06:44 PM

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10Q isn't horrible 5 way in decent position, especially if you think you can see the flop for cheap.

I'm not sure about this. It certainly looks like UTG is trying to isolate against SB, and is trying not to give odds to a draw. So really, I wouldn't expect him to have the flush draw. I think a reraise of maybe $10 might be more apropriate.

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Incorrect, QTo IS horrible 5 way and there is no certainty that you will get a cheap flop. If you are completing with QTo you might as well start playing Q9o and other trash like that.

Mobed · #7 02-14-2005, 06:49 PM

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Original post says that you were MP. I am not sure whether I would complete with QTo in SB. Definetly BB but maybe not SB in this game.

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Not sure now, it has me as MP then says SB completes (OP). So I could be wrong.

tbach24 · #8 02-14-2005, 06:55 PM

True or false: You have QTo.
True or false: You are MP.
If false to either of these, correct it.
QTo and Q9s are awful hands from MP and so I hope you were in SB. I'll complete with both (depending on gameplay).

Edit your post if anything is wrong.

xorbie · #9 02-14-2005, 07:25 PM

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Incorrect, QTo IS horrible 5 way and there is no certainty that you will get a cheap flop. If you are completing with QTo you might as well start playing Q9o and other trash like that.

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No, it's really not. 5 way, with no raises you have a very decent chance of being good flopping either top pair. Getting into the flop is a table dependent thing, so obviously I won't comment.

istewart · #10 02-14-2005, 07:53 PM

I don't see anything wrong with completing with QT.