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Old 02-14-2005, 03:37 PM
obeythekitten obeythekitten is offline
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Default holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

i didnt sense any tilt from the player at all, and i know if it was a smaller stack i would have called in a heartbeat, but here it is -


Hand #4436214-33 at Blaine (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 14/Feb/05 14:29:01

DUmoose is at seat 0 with 625.
raver00 is at seat 1 with 1535.
OBEYkitten is at seat 2 with 1505.
passoapman is at seat 3 with 1600.
Khandog is at seat 4 with 525.
sammarks is at seat 5 with 1555.
_dbs is at seat 7 with 955.
knobula is at seat 8 with 1210.
dugxex27 is at seat 9 with 490.
The button is at seat 0.

raver00 posts the small blind of 20.
OBEYkitten posts the big blind of 40.

DUmoose: -- --
raver00: -- --
OBEYkitten: Jh Js
passoapman: -- --
Khandog: -- --
sammarks: -- --
_dbs: -- --
knobula: -- --
dugxex27: -- --

Pre-flop:

passoapman calls. Khandog folds. sammarks folds.
_dbs folds. knobula folds. dugxex27 calls.
DUmoose goes all-in for 625. raver00 folds.
OBEYkitten folds. passoapman folds. dugxex27 folds.
DUmoose is returned 585 (uncalled).



Hand #4436214-33 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
DUmoose wins 180.
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Old 02-14-2005, 03:54 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

I would probably call. TT I might much. But JJ I'd probably call.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:03 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

Would he really push in an unraised pot with AA-QQ? I doubt it. You have the best hand. Push.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:29 PM
obeythekitten obeythekitten is offline
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Default Re: holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

but why subject myself to a race so early in a sng that will cost me over 1/3 my stack if i lose?
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:45 PM
slickterp slickterp is offline
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Default Re: holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

b/c it is so early you can absorb the hit to your stack, that's why i'd think about calling.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:47 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

Because there's an excellent chance that it isn't a race.
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

You are better than a 50% favorite and still have chips if you lose. He could have TT or 99 as well.
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:30 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: holding JJ from BB, button overbets pot all-in, weak laydown?

[ QUOTE ]
b/c it is so early you can absorb the hit to your stack, that's why i'd think about calling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly. You almost certainly have the best hand, and you only risk 1/3 of your stack. I don't understand how you could fold here.

Just so I'm clear, you cannot call either, IMO. I'd rank calling as worse than folding. There are 2 limpers still to act. You can't let them see the flop with Ax, Kx, Qx. This is a push.
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