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Old 02-08-2005, 10:02 PM
Emperor Emperor is offline
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Default Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

Party Poker

I hadn't really noticed this until today. I am averaging 2 orbits before the table breaks. 3/6 and above.

It is insane.

I don't notice this at the BBJ tables NEARLY as much. I'm trying to clear FEB150 though and it is taking forever due to the breaking tables.

Any suggestions?
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Old 02-08-2005, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

party bonus!!???
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

yes, send them a copy of this letter, or your own version of it;

Dear Partypoker,

I am currently one of your top customers, with a total rake of well in excess of $5000 per month. I feel that a significant problem exists at partypoker in the area of game preservation. The real money games fall apart very easily and therefore, it hurts both the players and your business.

The players are hurt because we now have to look for a new game, sometimes putting ourselves on a waiting list. Then often entering a game that has new players that we must now learn how they play, and the new game may not be as “good” (different average). Frequently I have had two games fall apart simultaneously, then had to wait on the list for what seemed like a long time to enter two new games.

Party poker is hurt in two ways by the game falling apart; first, some players just leave the site when the game breaks, second, when a game falls apart and players are waiting on a list you are not making your rake from those players (or from the game that fell apart). Of course once they get into a new game, your rake continues, however, given how often games fall apart at partypoker I know that you are loosing significant moneys until the players all get into new games.

Since this hurts both the profit and enjoyment of the players, and hurts the number of players and your rake (therefore your profit), both the players and partypoker have an interest in trying to hold together the games.

I have a few ideas.

There seem to be two main problems:
1. Players who consistently sit out (and then the system kicks them out).
2. Players who the moment another player sits out they then sit out and then leave the game.

To address the first problem, the players who consistently sit out (and then the system kicks them out), I suggest you implement a system similar to your disconnect protection system. The current rules allow a player to sit out for 25 hands , however many players abuse this. If a player sits out without returning more then the set 25 hands repeatedly in a set period of time, then they loose the privilege to sit our more then let’s say 10 hands (10 hands still allows them to take care of personal business), but stops them from hurting the game as badly as they do now).

As for the second problem, Players who the moment another player sits out they then sit out and leave, I have not come up with a great suggestion to address this problem. I think you should institute some type of rewards program, for the players who stay in one game for a certain period of time thus encouraging this productive behavior. And this benefits you by making certain that you continue to earn your rake.

Additionally, John Feeney wrote a book entitled INSIDE THE POKER MIND. In that book there is an essay on game preservation. I am sure if you credit the book, Mr. Feeney would allow you to print that essay on your web site.

I hope you address this problem. As a regular customer of partypoker I find this to be a major disruption.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:30 AM
IggyWH IggyWH is offline
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Default Re: Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

Although a nice email, it is a waste of time to send that email to them and an even bigger waste to type it up.

Your message just falls on the deaf ears of a customer service person you may or may not send you back a form letter. It won't go any further than that.

Party reportedly made $350,000,000 last year. They could care less about tables that break up quickly.
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:36 AM
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Party reportedly made $350,000,000 last year.

Nice money printing machine that site is...
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

Are you playing full ring or 6max. Clearly 6 max will break up much more often than full ring. When you sit down, make sure every other seat is filled and no one is sitting out is about all you can do.
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

Yeah 6 max is always hit and miss. You knock one guy out and all of a sudden the table breaks. Just the facts of 6 max tables.
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Old 02-09-2005, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

I can never tell if these posts are for real or not. If you are playing full ring, your tables should break infrequently enough that you shouldn't care. If you are playing 6max, WTF are you crying about? I can't imagine how someone could be a good 6max player and get worse the fewer number of people at their table... I make more money headsup and 3handed than I do 6handed...
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Suggestions on finding tables that don\'t break...

Iggy, I believe that any company that is sucessful wants to become even more sucessful. I am sure they look at customer feed back and want to meet our needs. it doesn't hurt to make an attempt by e-mailing and let them know how you feel.
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Old 02-09-2005, 05:20 PM
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Any suggestions?

Play badly.

Lori
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