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Old 02-08-2005, 12:10 AM
snapfc01 snapfc01 is offline
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Default wrong to just call here?

my thinking here was i was semi low and wanted another call preflop then push post flop. ya there is hope of the guy floping two pair (or better)... but not likely and if i'm gonna have to try to double up sometime why not with this hand?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

Hero (t1030)
SB (t7057)
BB (t590)
UTG (t2242)
MP (t2190)
CO (t391)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t391</font>, Hero calls t391, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t291.

Flop: (t1248) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t639</font>, UTG calls t589.

Turn: (t2526) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t2526) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2526
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

any thoughts please?
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

Personally, I think you want to tell UTG, this is yours, so backoff. Play this headsup and push.

If you were trying to entice another stack into play, I can see the reason for this, but I wouldn't entice a larger stack, who has room to play draws.
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

i'm new to online playing... specially sngs... but i just thought it was likely i'd have to double up to get in the money and this would probably be my best shot... no?
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

Doubling up "to survive" is not your best chance of getting into the money. Studying 2+2 about Folding Equity is your best chance of getting into the money.

Food for thought: The easiest way to accumulate chips is by avoiding showdowns.

In this hand, a showdown is warranted. But don't go 3 way if you can avoid it, IMHO.
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

No. You don't need to double up. You're in fine position here. 6 handed with two opponents crippled (for the time being), you need to get UTG the hell out of your pot with one opponent all-in. Adding t500 to your t1,000 stack is never a bad thing.

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Old 02-08-2005, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

once again not trying to fight anyone just wanting to know your thoughts. if someone moves all in over the top of UTG's mini raise (even if it is the short stack) and someone else calls... what hands will he call with?
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

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once again not trying to fight anyone just wanting to know your thoughts. if someone moves all in over the top of UTG's mini raise (even if it is the short stack) and someone else calls... what hands will he call with?

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Who's "he"? I'm not understanding your question.
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

he is UTG... if you were to make a miniraise (which i'm guessing you wouldn't b/c it's pointless) and someone went over the top all in and someone else cold called... what would u call with? knowing that someone went over the top all in and someone else called.
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Old 02-08-2005, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: wrong to just call here?

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he is UTG... if you were to make a miniraise (which i'm guessing you wouldn't b/c it's pointless) and someone went over the top all in and someone else cold called... what would u call with? knowing that someone went over the top all in and someone else called.

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Pre-flop? Depends on my read. I've honestly had situations similar to this that I'd call with any semi-strong Ace. I've been at other tables that I would fold AK and QQ in this situation.

Very table dependant.
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