would you fold KK here?

Okee · #1 01-31-2005, 03:46 AM

SB (~2800)
Hero (~650 after posting the BB)
UTG (~2050)
UTG+1 (~1800)
MP1 (~650)
LP1 (~1800)
button (~550)
BB is 100.
Preflop: Hero is BB with KK.
UTG raises to 250, UTG2 calls, MP1 raises all in (to 650), folds around to Hero in the BB.

Sorry about the sloppy hand history; did it from memory. I know the chips don't add up to 10,000 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Game is UB, $22.

So, I got KK and am desparate. UTG is a tight, solid player. +1 is loose-passive, MP1 is loose aggressive. So I expect at least one more call, even if I go all-in (raising it another 100). Even if I have the best hand there's a good chance of getting cooked. If I fold, I may see 1 or even 2 players eliminated (narrowing the field to 5 or 6), but leaving me in even more desparate chip position.

Slim Pickens · #2 01-31-2005, 03:54 AM

I only fold if I'm in the can. Seriously, you should be so lucky as to have lots of preflop action holding KK while shortstacked. You will have to at least double up to make it ITM, and this looks like a great place to try it. Fold this and you'll probably be looking at a similar situation in two orbits, but with a worse hand a fewer chips.

Slim

SuitedSixes · #3 01-31-2005, 03:58 AM

Push.

ChrisV · #4 01-31-2005, 04:18 AM

Don't push. Not straightaway.

First, point your finger in the general direction of MP, UTG, and UTG+1. Scream the following:

"KINGS! YOU LIKE THAT? YEAH! YOU LOVE IT!"

Then shake your fist at the screen and intone the following prayer:

COME ON BABY! ONE TIME!

OK. Now push.

SuitedSixes · #5 01-31-2005, 04:35 AM

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Don't push. Not straightaway.

First, point your finger in the general direction of MP, UTG, and UTG+1. Scream the following:

"KINGS! YOU LIKE THAT? YEAH! YOU LOVE IT!"

Then shake your fist at the screen and intone the following prayer:

COME ON BABY! ONE TIME!

OK. Now push.

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Then scream, "Ship it!"

eastbay · #6 01-31-2005, 04:42 AM

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networkman · #7 01-31-2005, 05:20 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Don't push. Not straightaway.

First, point your finger in the general direction of MP, UTG, and UTG+1. Scream the following:

"KINGS! YOU LIKE THAT? YEAH! YOU LOVE IT!"

Then shake your fist at the screen and intone the following prayer:

COME ON BABY! ONE TIME!

OK. Now push.

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Then scream, "Ship it!"

[/ QUOTE ]

No, the screaming will be when the ace flops.....LOL

rachelwxm · #8 01-31-2005, 01:25 PM

If you fold, you could quit playing poker. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

adanthar · #9 01-31-2005, 01:27 PM

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[/ QUOTE ]I skimmed it, and no

Okee · #10 01-31-2005, 05:54 PM

yeah, yeah ok,ok, so y'all aggree and I of course did what you said. I got both the other calls and so it was a 4-way all-in for me. As it turns out I did have the best hand and everyone had an underpair. Problem w/ this situation is that I only have a slightly better than 50% chance to win the hand; but if i do i almost quadrupal up! (which i didn't [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )

Now what about this situation: let's say i'm not on the short stack. Let's say there's 6 people at the table, BB is 150, there is a big raise from someone who can cover my all-in, and at least one all-in ahead of me; meaning that I might face the same situation again. I've got, say, 2500 chips; which is enough to have almost a sure thing of making it to the final 3 if 2 people get eliminated here. Still do it?