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Old 01-27-2005, 01:03 AM
mikey checks mikey checks is offline
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Default $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

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EARLY in the tournament. No reads and a flop easily manipulated by idiots involved in the hand. I raised preflop....tell me if I make a good call here, I was hoping no AK or set on the flop.


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 (t950)
CO (t800)
Button (t990)
SB (t770)
BB (t460)
UTG (t785)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 (t600)</font>
UTG+2 (t830)
<font color="#C00000">[HERO] (t775)</font>
MP2 (t1040)

Preflop: [HERO] is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">[HERO] raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls t45, UTG+1 calls t45.

Flop: (t190) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t450</font>, <font color="#CC3333">[HERO] raises to t715 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t90 (All-In).

Turn: (t1670) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1670) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1670

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Old 01-27-2005, 01:25 AM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

You made a bad call.

You also made a bad preflop raise. Too early and too full a table to be getting fancy with KQo in MP, especially with an EP limper.
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

I don't like it.

At worst, you are WAY behind. At reasonable best (vs nut flush draw), you are ~55% to win the hand. Yeah there are dead chips, but you didn't know that would happen. I say make a tough laydown.

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Old 01-27-2005, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

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You also made a bad preflop raise.

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Yeah. Also, that.

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Old 01-27-2005, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

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[Preflop: [HERO] is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">[HERO] raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls t45, UTG+1 calls t45.


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You gotta fix that.

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Old 01-27-2005, 02:54 AM
mikey checks mikey checks is offline
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

OK, criticism aside for the PFR...pretend it's K[d]Q[d] --

I guess you are agreeing with me in saying that someone has slowplayed an AKo/AKs or AA on me -- or I am devastatedly behind to a set?












This early in the tournament I try to bust out draw-psychos. Villain shows down J-7c. Turns out the TEN on the turn gave him a little over 30% twice
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

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pretend it's K[d]Q[d]

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Okay. I'm pretending...

I don't like the raise preflop.

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Villain shows down J-7c

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River was 7c

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Old 01-27-2005, 03:03 AM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

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OK, criticism aside for the PFR...pretend it's K[d]Q[d] --

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Then the PFR is even worse. Not only can AQ bust you out in level 1, but a weak suited ace can bust you too.

I promise this is more important than what to do later in the hand. It doesn't matter how nice your Boom Boom Room is if the first rain of the season will wash your home away.

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Old 01-29-2005, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KQ flop with 2 pushing

Then it was 6[c]...whatever. I got outdrawn by a flush draw and undercards.
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Old 01-29-2005, 12:28 PM
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Raise and a min reraise... your hand is no good here.
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