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Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
the only thing I can say is that UTG "felt" like a steal. MP1 could have been anything, and obviously I feared AA or KK.
My position was one of lunacy looking back. Any criticism is welcome. EV analysis might be interesting... Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter Button (t1830) Hero (t965) BB (t935) UTG (t995) MP1 (t2010) MP2 (t765) CO (t500) Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t450</font>, MP1 calls t450, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t965 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t995 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls t545. Flop: (t3155) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font> Turn: (t3155) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font> River: (t3155) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t3155 MP1 A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] |
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
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EV analysis might be interesting... [/ QUOTE ] twotimes.net is your friend. http://twodimes.net/h/?z=730402 pokenum -h kh as - ac jh - kc tc Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV As Kh 683697 49.88 624355 45.55 62702 4.57 0.521 Ac Jh 273314 19.94 1042040 76.02 55400 4.04 0.219 Kc Tc 351041 25.61 1005552 73.36 14161 1.03 0.260 But remember, you said odds aren't important in tournament play. |
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
You have 5xBB and the bubble is still a long way away. And you're in SB, so you're getting a discount on top. What exactly is holding you back?
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
Bigredlemon, that's exactly what I was thinking!
I don't know if that is good SnG play tho. |
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
"But remember, you said odds aren't important in tournament play. "
And I thought no one listens to me. |
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
Scuba-
From the hands you're posting I am guessing that you play a very good tight game in Levels 1-3, but you are having a hard time shifting gears once it gets short-handed. I have experienced the same probelms. It is hard to get used to the fact that you can't even limp with ATs early, but open-push with it fifteen minutes later. My advice: 1) Answer eastbay's replies to your other posts with actual numbers. Don't worry about getting the math wrong, everyone will help you figure it out. The best posts are the ones that you get wrong. Eastbay and Irieguy are intentionally being vague for you so that you can think through some of this on your own. Take advantage of the fact that two of the best posters here are willing to walk you through this for free. I know some people who pay for advice like this. 2) Realize that short-handed you only need to beat one other hand. 3) Subscribe to the "Be satisfied with 3rd, gamble for 1st theory." 4) Understand the Gap Concept. |
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
Three things.
1) You didn't call a 2-way all-in. You pushed first. 2) Did you understand before you pushed that you had zero fold equity? UTG isn't folding after putting half his chips in the pot and getting almost 6-1, UTG+1 is calling regardless of what he holds. 3) You were right. You had the best hand and less than 5 BB in your stack. Looks to me like you made the tight choice. Results are irrelevant. |
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
If you never fold AK 5bb or less, you are likely not too wrong.
Push for value. |
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Re: Should I call a 2 way allin with AK?
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1) You didn't call a 2-way all-in. You pushed first. 2) Did you understand before you pushed that you had zero fold equity? [/ QUOTE ] i think this might be why OP shortened his subject to "call a 2 way allin" and yes, with under 5 bb's, AK is gold. get the money in. |
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Re: Should I RAISE a 3-way pot allin with AK?
UTG looks like a PP to me and big stack in MP looks like two big cards. You have the nut no pair and can triple up. Easy push -- no other choice.
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