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Old 01-24-2005, 01:01 PM
Malcom Reynolds Malcom Reynolds is offline
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Default River Decision against TP-P and LA-P

Villian (UTG) is 22.1/2.6 with AF of 0.3.
UTG+1 is 65.52/10.34 with AF 0.25.

When the board gets double paired after no turn aggression, what's my river plan?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks.

River: (12 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>
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Old 01-24-2005, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: River Decision against TP-P and LA-P

Bet.
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Old 01-24-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: River Decision against TP-P and LA-P

I bet this out. If he has AA, oh well....but more likely QQ. AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is possible, but unlikely based on his aggression factor. UTG+2 smells like a flush draw.

Another line is to check to induce a bluff. I think you're good here way more than 8 percent of the time.

I prefer value betting here however, as it would suck to get it checked through.
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Old 01-24-2005, 01:22 PM
Malcom Reynolds Malcom Reynolds is offline
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Default Re: River Decision against TP-P and LA-P

Okay. Looks like we agree on betting the river. Now what?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks.

River: (12 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero ???.
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: River Decision against TP-P and LA-P

Call down. You're probably beat, but I have seen even passive postflop players go buckwild with a big pair like QQ. And if you are beat, i wanna see what the hell he has to play that hand like that.
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