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Old 01-24-2005, 07:51 AM
boondockst boondockst is offline
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Default Should i have tried to see the flop?

Hand #4126478-108 at Mon5amA-003 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 24/Jan/05 06:45:32

AAH is at seat 0 with 2315.
bella78 is at seat 1 with 3950.
thome is at seat 2 with 3750.
kentucky1968 is at seat 3 with 3165.
Shotty1800 is at seat 4 with 6440.
Chim Hoi is at seat 5 with 12310.
incubliss is at seat 6 with 2325.
LatinKnight is at seat 7 with 16780.
7homey7 is at seat 8 with 1300.
KidKorea is at seat 9 with 1365.
The button is at seat 6.

LatinKnight posts the small blind of 150.
7homey7 posts the big blind of 300.

AAH: -- --
bella78: -- --
thome: -- --
kentucky1968: -- --
Shotty1800: -- --
Chim Hoi: -- --
incubliss: 8s 8h
LatinKnight: -- --
7homey7: -- --
KidKorea: -- --

Pre-flop:

KidKorea folds. AAH folds. bella78 calls. thome
folds. kentucky1968 folds. Shotty1800 folds. Chim
Hoi folds. incubliss calls. LatinKnight raises to
1500. 7homey7 goes all-in for 1300. bella78 calls.
incubliss folds.

Flop (board: 2c 8d Qh):

LatinKnight bets 4600. bella78 folds. LatinKnight
is returned 4600 (uncalled).

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

LatinKnight shows Ks Kh.
7homey7 shows Ah Ac.


Turn (board: 2c 8d Qh 5h):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 2c 8d Qh 5h 8c):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

LatinKnight has Ks Kh 8d Qh 8c: two pair, kings and eights.
7homey7 has Ah Ac 8d Qh 8c: two pair, aces and eights.


Hand #4126478-108 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
7homey7 wins the main pot 4200 with two pair, aces and eights.
LatinKnight wins the side pot 400 with two pair, kings and eights.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:26 PM
kuro kuro is offline
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Default Re: Should i have tried to see the flop?

At around 8xbb, I don't like limping with mid pairs hoping to hit a set. Either push preflop or fold. 88 is going to be dominated or a coin flip to anything that calls you so if you think it's likely you'll be called then I'd lean towards folding and looking for a better spot.

If you're thinking that you should have called after the raises preflop because you would have won the pot, you're being results oriented and trying to justify a bad call to yourself. You were dominated preflop by two players and your stack size isn't so desperate that you should call.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:34 PM
Sam T. Sam T. is offline
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Default Re: Should i have tried to see the flop?

Calling is terrible, but given your position, I don't mind a push here.

It's tough to put the chip leader on anything other than a steal, and the second guy is so short-stacked, he could be making this play this with a lone ace. Here's a chance to very nearly triple up, and you are (probably, though not actually) the happy side of a coin-flip.
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