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JJ hand PP $22
Is this an auto fold?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter UTG+2 (t1235) MP1 (t1010) MP2 (t815) MP3 (t775) CO (t740) Button (t365) SB (t785) Hero (t800) UTG (t800) UTG+1 (t675) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t15, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t15, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t45</font>, Hero calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP3 calls t30. Flop: (t180) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t100</font>, SB folds, Hero folds, MP1 folds. Final Pot: t280 |
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Re: JJ hand PP $22
I don't know why you'd call with JJ. Reraise preflop unless you know the SB is a rock and has you beat already, (then fold) which is highly unlikely at this point. Reraise preflop.
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Re: JJ hand PP $22
There are a couple of schools of thought with medium pocket pairs it seems. One is what you suggest, to raise with them, playing them as a hand. The other is to play them for set value therfore needing improvement.
The reason I chose not to raise in the first place was because of my terrible position in the bb. Had I been in late position and been limped to me and the blinds been higher I probobly would have then raised. Early in the tournament what I really want is to spike a set with overcards on the flop and take someones entire stack. But since in this case the flop came with an overcard to my jacks and I am getting heat from MP3 I am thinking the chances are quite good that I already beat. |
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Re: JJ hand PP $22
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The reason I chose not to raise in the first place was because of my terrible position in the bb. [/ QUOTE ] The raiser was in the SB, so you had position on him. You should re-raise to knock out the limpers and then you will have position for the rest of the hand. After the SB checks the flop, I would've definately bet 100 on this flop. That's what the MP player did after everyone checked, and he won the pot. Maybe he had a K, maybe not. |
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Re: JJ hand PP $22
I'd haved reraised preflop to about 125 or so juts to create the dead money and establish position. Doing so likely would have chesed everyone else, and then a 125 or so bet on the flop takes it down if PF RR doesn't.
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Re: JJ hand PP $22
I for one agree with you.Gigabet had a similar response to a TT hand a few days ago and it seems to me that JJ is similar to TT when overcards flop. Unless you had a real good read on SB I think you were correct at this stage of the tourny.
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