Poker Tourney Point System?

[Scotty O]

I have looked through the 2+2 forum and the web and cant find much with a point system. I have tried to look for the CardPlayer Mag point system and can't find there formula. I was wondering what other people use? I was going to use the money leader for the point system and some players don't like it. I was figuring that for the more people that play, up to 30, the harder it is to make the money. Also the higher the buy in the more reward for making the money. THoughts?

[DerryABU]

I run a monthly tourney at my work's club that ranges between 18 to 40 people.At last months tourney I started a league system with the format below.
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For each game played in, 5 points will be awarded - so if you come to 8 tournaments you will earn 40 points.
Additionally, if you make a final table appearance, you will be awarded the following points:
1st - 20 points
2nd -15 points
3rd - 12 points
4th - 10 points
5th - 8 points
6th - 6 points
7th - 4 points
8th - 2 point
In the event of the last two players splitting the prize money 17 points will be awarded to each.
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On the first night the last two did split the prizes and recieved 22pts each.
I realise its not a perfect system and some months may be easier to gain points in than others due to the number of players,but I feel it does favour the regulars that come and play due to the points for appearances.
Hope this helps.

[smoore]

easiest: however many people in the tourney, that's how many points 1st gets. Second gets (# of people)-1, third (#)-2 etc... you basically invert the ranking column in a spreadsheet and there's the points. Last place still gets one point! wooohoooo!

[trevorwc]

I'm not a fan of the "15 points for first no matter what" system myself, because it's obviously harder to win a 30 than a 12 person tourney. What we do is take the number of people, and that's what the winner gets - and then subtract 4 points per place until you're down to zero.

So in a 22 person tourney, the winner gets 22, 2nd gets 18, 3rd gets 14, 4th gets 10, 5th gets 6, and 6th gets 2. We then give one point to the rest of the final table.

[MickeyHoldem]

Here's a excel formula to use...

=ROUND(10*SQRT(NumberOfPlayers)/SQRT(FinishPosition),2)-9

nice feature: Finishing 4th in a 20 person tourney will get you the same points as finishing 6th in a 30 person field or 8th in a 40 person field.

[jalsing]

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Here's a excel formula to use...

=ROUND(10*SQRT(NumberOfPlayers)/SQRT(FinishPosition),2)-9

nice feature: Finishing 4th in a 20 person tourney will get you the same points as finishing 6th in a 30 person field or 8th in a 40 person field.

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additionally if you want to adjust for the buyin amount, you can modify the formula further:
ROUND(10*SQRT(NumberOfPlayers)/SQRT(FinishPosition)*1+(log(buyin+.25)),2)

I believe this is the method pokerstars uses for its point system.

[Lottery Larry]

It's been a while for this stuff

"+(log(buyin+.25)),2)"

a) what's the ",2" ?

b) Someone remind me how to do the log function by hand?

c) why is it +.25 added to the buyin?

Thanks

[Lottery Larry]

Here's the one we use this year

POINTS ( Tourneys of 4 or less don't get points )
10 Bottom 1/2 of non-cash
15 Top 1/2 of non-cash (Bubble +2, or 17 points)
20 Cash place prize winners (below 3rd)
25 3rd (-5 for 3 places paid, -10 if 2)
35 2nd (-5 for 3 places paid, -10 if 2)
45 1st (-5 for 3 places paid, -10 if 2)

I tried to balance participation and finish, plus I didn't see a huge difference between beating 20 or 30 people, given the luck involved in tournaments.

[Lottery Larry]

My problem with this system is that there's too much of a gap between top and bottom finishers and not enough (one point?) between upper finishers.

Example- First hand of tourney, flop is xxy. Two players go all-in, Kx getting Qx to put all of his chips in. River Queen knocks out the dominating hand. Qx holder goes on to get 2nd place (under your system, 17 points) while the unlucky dominating hand gets 1 point.

Another example- I play in 5 tourneys, you get lucky in your only one and win. you have twice as many points as I do, but who was more important to the tournament players?

Luck plays too much of a factor to overweight it. Same goes for the prize pools.

[Fins]

[ QUOTE ]
It's been a while for this stuff

"+(log(buyin+.25)),2)"

a) what's the ",2" ?

b) Someone remind me how to do the log function by hand?

c) why is it +.25 added to the buyin?

Thanks

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The ",2" is part of the rounding function (ROUND) and rounds the result to two places.

I like the formula but still playing with it I don't like the "buy-in" part... I think it should be part of the equation but not like that... what's the point of adjusting less than a whole point for buy-in??

- Fins