Kem cards and rough treatment

[Jeff P]

I'm really wanting to spring for a set of Kem cards to use in our regular game. For those of you who use them, how do you feel about folks who are used to shuffling $.97 decks of cards, bending them every which way, etc? Do the cards hold up ok from people who don't know how to treat the cards?

The ones I'm looking at getting is a set of 2 decks - green and brown Club Casino cards for $33.99. I just would hate to pay that much for the cards then cringe everytime one of the guys bends the cards in half!

Thanks.

[lightw1thoutheat]

two things
the cards hold up pretty nicely, although when theyre new i tend to wince when some people shuffle them. They dont crease easily.

secondly, i think you could get a better price somewhere, i dont remember spending that much for them.
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[CptMisery]

The KEM's we use in my game are passed around and shuffled in ways I didn't even know you could shuffle cards and they have yet to show any wear after over six months being used at least 3 times a week.

The price you have seems kind of high for the KEM's. Try this site http://www.casinowholesalers.com/kempokerdouble.htm

I have dealt with them before and would recommend this supplier.

Good luck!

[gummy d]

Don't order KEM cards. They hold up alright but all the decks i've received and my friends have received in the last year have been marked in one way or another. Several other posts have been made about this. Do a search.

[JPinAZ]

Check ebay. I picked up 3 lightly used sets (6 decks) of the same style for $30.

[lossage]

I bought a setup six months back, and they're still fine, after having been used exclusively by idiots during that period. Bear in mind that my definition of "fine" is strong; I'm fussy enough about cards that I would toss a paper deck after only a day or two of use.

Two caveats: (1) You will get some warpage in any cards after some time; storing them under weight seems to clear this up fine. Kem cards still have tons more memory for their original shape than most. By all reports, you're more likely to have a corner snap off than you are to have a deal-breaking crease. (2) As others have said, the quality and supply of Kem cards has been dodgy of late. I don't know if Kem has gotten their act back together recently, or if we should seek out a new brand of choice, at least for a little while.

[Jeff P]

Thanks for all the replies.

I did some reading on previous posts regarding Kem vs. Copag (and other plastic/cellulose cards). I am somewhat concerned about the quality issues that are being reported by people who have recently bought Kem cards. However, I have played with Copag cards in some local amateur league tournaments at the bars and I wasn't crazy about them. I played with these Kem cards at Foxwood's and Harrah's, and like the "font" and face prints better.

With regards to the ebay auctions, my only concern there is getting a bad deck and not being able to return them, etc. I'll check out some of the other internet retailers and do some price shopping.

[DerryABU]

Cards by copag is the best place to get Kems,only $26.95 for the same set you wanted and they are original Kems not the USPC "new" Kems.I have bought about 10 sets over the last year from Joe at Cards by Copag and they have all been top quality. Hope this helps.

[Triple C]

I just picked up a single deck of these from them, but you can get a setup if you want. Better than $33.99. Personally, I picked them up because I needed to replace 1 card - kinda stupid, but better than buying two decks IMO.

Casino Club KEMs

[MSPatton]

I have a set of these Kem Vinyl Cards
They have a totally different feel then the standard acetate cards.
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