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Old 01-06-2005, 02:30 PM
P Carr P Carr is offline
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Default Ace on the button (first post).

Hello to all. I've been lurking here for a while, and thanks to the advice of SSHE and this forum, I'm up 2 BB/100 over my first 7K hands. Thank you to all. This is my first hand post, and it's something I'm never quite sure about, primarily the pre-flop play.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls.

(MP1 has a VP$IP around 60%, so I tried to isolate him. Good idea?)

Flop: (5.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls.

(3-bet here? Or wait to pop him on the turn?)

Turn: (4.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls.

(No cap here, considering my weak kicker?)

River: (12.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

(Figuring this is a split at best.)

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

Edited 1/6 to correct spelling errors.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:32 PM
meanjean meanjean is offline
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

I fold this hand preflop...but that's just me
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

nice hand. Find a better table.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

Isolation plays and blind steals tend not to work at this level since so many players think nothing of calling two cold preflop. Players in the blinds will often call with garbage. In particular, you will tend to get called by ace-rag hands, which means you may be dominated from the get-go.

I would fold pre-flop.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:40 PM
Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) is offline
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

I would like your preflop isolation play better if you were sooted or had a better kicker, maybe A8 or A9. I'd fold but I think it's close enough that an isolation raise isn't bad.

Flop: goot
Turn: The cap is a little much after he checkraises you on the flop and 3-bets your turn raise.
River: goot
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:43 PM
Drizztdj Drizztdj is offline
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

Playing Ace + rag vs. Ace + rag isn't profitable at the lower levels, despite having position.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

I would have folded pre-flop. You will almost always be out kicked. I doubt you even get a split pot.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

I'm dumb. I missed that MP1 had limped. I thought you were stealing. fold preflop.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:31 PM
P Carr P Carr is offline
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

Thanks for all the comments. Pre-flop, I think I was a victim of fancy play syndrome. In retrospect, with the PF play a given, I probably should have just called his turn 3-bet and the river (assuming no 6), since he was generally passive post-flop. But the worst part is that he flipped over A4, scooping the pot on the river, instead of the more likely split. Ah well, I hit an inside straight on him three hands later and got my money back.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Ace on the button (first post).

[ QUOTE ]
I'm dumb. I missed that MP1 had limped. I thought you were stealing. fold preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]

So had everyone folded, is a steal recommended?
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