AA - Standard or improper laydown?

[Akimka]

Stats for MP1:
VPIP 18.2, PF Raise 3.6, postflop agr 1.7

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

[sfer]

Icky. Mine eyes, they burn!

EDIT: I'll stop being such a dweeb. I'd start calling but I don't feel good about my hand. I'm not folding an overpair here especially with the 3rd dude tagging along. And raising any flop intending to fold to a 3-bet with an overpair is just horrid. For another 1.5 BBs you get to showdown.

[Akimka]

My line here is to check him when it's not expensive - on flop is i against TPTK or set. I think he will not 3bet TPTK hand and i had 2+1 out (1 for backdoor str8). So i can easily fold here to set. My line is not so good here? can i fold on turn if Q falls?

[sfer]

How can you be so convinced he has a set? 1.7 is pretty aggressive postflop.

[Bob T.]

I think Pathetic is a better word here than improper.

If you counted the bets in the pot, and he showed you KK, it would still be right to call. With any possibility that he would have played AK this way, you need to call this one down. 1.7 is a fairly aggressive player, and I don't think you can eliminate that possibility.

[ReMMy]

Ewww. Never fold your overpair heads up just because he capped the flop. Never. Ok, if he has a .02 aggression on the flop after a couple hundred hands mmmmaybe.

So many dumbasses will play AK, KQ, a flush draw etc like that. Slow down but don't fold.

[bozlax]

That's the worst! People talk about hands they hate, AA is mine, mostly because i just can't get myself to lay it down, regardless of the board. If I don't win the pot preflop, and don't pick up another pair or better on the flop, I'm pretty much resigning myself to losing.

I put one of your opponents on at least AJ, the other probably on a big pair. Even if one of them is on a pure bluff (unlikely in a 2/4) and the other has TPTK, the odds aren't with you.

I probably would've thought about it, then called instead of raising on the flop to see one more card, and then had somebody much bigger than me fold for me if I was bet into on the turn.

[27offsooot]

Wouldn't AK play the hand the same way? More combinations of AK than KK (Do you think he would've capped PF with JJ out of position?). Maybe I call down too much, but I can't see folding this to a turn three bet.

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ack! never ever ever fold like that again.

[lu_hawk]

What does a 3.6% PFR player cap with? Not AK and probably not QQ. I personally don't fold this but at this point I would only be hoping that he has AA and I chop.