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12-30-2004, 02:00 AM
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Party $109 Hand - ITM, Short but Average Stack
This is a common situation that I'm sure we all face quite frequently. Party $100+9 NLHE tourney. Top 60 pays and we're now down to 57. I have less than 10XBB but so do most people so I'm actually around 25th in chips. Moving up to the 20s would earn me another $100. And we all know it's getting to the final table that matters. So, with a goal of reaching the final table, would you fold, call, push or do a stop and go?
Sorry, the converter is down: #Game No : 1365843815 ***** Hand History for Game 1365843815 ***** NL Hold'em Trny:8253609 Level:13 Blinds (750/1500) - Thursday, December 30, 00:35:40 EDT 2004 Table Multi-Table(189942) Table #4 (Real Money) Seat 9 is the button Total number of players : 9 Seat 1: bdhall ( $13276 ) Seat 2: CaptSteve ( $8070 ) Seat 3: PomiDor1 ( $10086 ) Seat 5: Skeels ( $7989 ) Seat 6: rplrpl ( $19920 ) Seat 7: unioncollege ( $5265 ) Seat 8: CARPETBAGGER ( $12630 ) Seat 9: jr424 ( $10984 ) Seat 10: Magic_Pig ( $8780 ) Trny:8253609 Level:13 Blinds (750/1500) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Magic_Pig [ 6s 6h ] CaptSteve folds. PomiDor1 folds. Skeels folds. rplrpl folds. unioncollege folds. CARPETBAGGER folds. jr424 raises [3000]. Magic_Pig ?????? 
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#3
12-30-2004, 02:21 AM
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Re: Party $109 Hand - ITM, Short but Average Stack
I push against an obvious steal, but it's close since he's goign to be getting good odds to call and could easily have 2 overs. If you had 2-3k more it's an easy push as I think you get more fold equity that way. Either way I'd probably push here though barring any reads on the player.
-Rizen
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#4
12-30-2004, 02:29 AM
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Re: Party $109 Hand - ITM, Short but Average Stack
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I push against an obvious steal, but it's close since he's goign to be getting good odds to call and could easily have 2 overs. If you had 2-3k more it's an easy push as I think you get more fold equity that way. Either way I'd probably push here though barring any reads on the player. -Rizen [/ QUOTE ] No reads on the player. If you're concerned about folding equity what about a stop and go?
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#5
12-30-2004, 02:33 AM
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Re: Party $109 Hand - ITM, Short but Average Stack
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[ QUOTE ] I push against an obvious steal, but it's close since he's goign to be getting good odds to call and could easily have 2 overs. If you had 2-3k more it's an easy push as I think you get more fold equity that way. Either way I'd probably push here though barring any reads on the player. -Rizen [/ QUOTE ] No reads on the player. If you're concerned about folding equity what about a stop and go? [/ QUOTE ] If I were the button I'm not sure I could fold this to a stop and go either unless the flop was like AKJ. Thinking about it though I do think a stop and go would be a better play than pushing, as you'd get a little bit of fold equity that way. So I'm changing my response [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think this is a hole in my tournament game anyways. Later on I like to do a lot of pushing/re-stealing when I should be mixing in some stop and gos too, especially if I feel they give me greater folding equity. Good hand, definitely food for thought... -Rizen
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#6
12-30-2004, 02:37 AM
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Re: Party $109 Hand - ITM, Short but Average Stack
And because I love to play devil's advocate, even when I'm the one suggesting the original move, would you do a stop and go on a mini-raise with one person left to act. Seems like it offers pretty good odds to the BB and you certainly wouldn't want to play this three-way.
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#7
12-30-2004, 02:47 AM
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Re: Party $109 Hand - ITM, Short but Average Stack
Good point, for some reason I thought you were the BB and the SB was the one that raised you. Not sure why, maybe it's late and I'm more worried about the stars rebuy right now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Like I said originally, I would probably push, but that may be a hole in my game. I almost think you'd need a read on the BB here. I'm curious as to what other 2+2ers think though, as this is a situation I come across a lot as well. I almost always push without a solid read, but that may be a leak... -Rizen
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#9
12-30-2004, 02:56 AM
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Re: Party $109 Hand - ITM, Short but Average Stack
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I'm curious as to what other 2+2ers think though, as this is a situation I come across a lot as well. [/ QUOTE ] I hope others give input as well. I try to post hands that have are more overall strategic versus just "did I screw up this hand". I think this situation comes up quite frequently - your short stack but not absolutely desperate, you have a marginal hand but certainly one that is +EV, and you can wait and earn a little extra cash. I played my first Stars $10+1 rebuy tonight. Very interesting. I got knocked out around 190 and was card dead for the last hour or so. But it's a cheap way of getting aggression out!
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