This is why cats hate dogs...

Game #113948635 - $5/$10 Hold'em - 2001/09/28-23:47:06 (CST)

Table "Martinique" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button

Seat 1: URMeowed ($596 in chips)

Seat 2: LastCardTiny ($86 in chips)

Seat 3: James2000 ($535 in chips)

Seat 4: my turn ($912 in chips)

Seat 5: LEB07 ($291 in chips)

Seat 6: AttackDog ($106.50 in chips)

Seat 7: Slick2 ($277 in chips)

Seat 8: sandals ($86.50 in chips)

Seat 9: ploker ($259 in chips)

Seat 10: B29Bomber ($1,131 in chips)

LastCardTiny: Post Small Blind ($2)

James2000: Post Big Blind ($5)

Dealing...

Dealt to URMeowed [ Kd ]

Dealt to URMeowed [ Ks ]

my turn : Fold

LEB07 : Fold

AttackDog: Call ($5)

Slick2 : Fold

sandals : Fold ploker : Fold

B29Bomber: Fold

URMeowed: Raise ($10)

LastCardTiny: Fold

James2000 said, "thieve!"

James2000: Fold

URMeowed said, "meow"

URMeowed said, "punish the limper"

AttackDog said, "war?"

URMeowed said, "all in?"

URMeowed said, "just muck"

AttackDog: Raise ($10)

URMeowed said, "meow?"

URMeowed said, "nh Dog"

URMeowed: Call ($5)

*** FLOP *** : [ Kh Ts 5d ]

AttackDog: Bet ($5)

URMeowed: Call ($5)

*** TURN *** : [ Kh Ts 5d ] [ 2h ]

James2000 said, "get the thieve..."

AttackDog: Bet ($10)

URMeowed: Call ($10)

*** RIVER *** : [ Kh Ts 5d 2h ] [ Ad ]

AttackDog: Bet ($10)

URMeowed said, "only cause it's you will i just call"

AttackDog said, "raise"

URMeowed: Call ($10)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $84 | Rake: $3

Board: [ Kh Ts 5d 2h Ad ]

URMeowed lost $40 (showed hand) [ Kd Ks ] (three of a kind, kings)

LastCardTiny lost $2 (folded)

James2000 lost $5 (folded)

my turn didn't bet (folded)

LEB07 didn't bet (folded)

AttackDog bet $40, collected $84, net +$44 (showed hand) [ Qd Jd ] (a straight, ten to ace)

Slick2 didn't bet (folded)

sandals didn't bet (folded)

ploker didn't bet (folded)

B29Bomber didn't bet (folded)

Maybe you can't beat online poker after all. I mean they keep taking the worst of it heads up and keep getting there. I guess that's why so many casinos here in Las Vegas lose so much money. They always have the best of it on every table game yet gamblers keep sucking out on them too. Damn, pretty soon this is going to be a ghost town and I'll have to move.


Game #113950896 - $5/$10 Hold'em - 2001/09/28-23:56:08 (CST)

Table "Martinique" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button

Seat 1: URMeowed ($556 in chips)

Seat 2: fourputt ($142 in chips)

Seat 3: James2000 ($521 in chips)

Seat 4: my turn ($882 in chips)

Seat 5: LEB07 ($353 in chips)

Seat 6: AttackDog ($150.50 in chips)

Seat 7: Slick2 ($324 in chips)

Seat 8: sandals ($79.50 in chips)

Seat 9: blomsten 1 ($216 in chips)

Seat 10: B29Bomber ($1,081 in chips)

LEB07 : Post Small Blind ($2)

AttackDog: Post Big Blind ($5)

Dealing...

Dealt to URMeowed [ Ac ]

Dealt to URMeowed [ As ]

Slick2 : Fold

sandals : Fold

blomsten 1: Fold

B29Bomber: Call ($5)

URMeowed said, "meowy flop then brick brick......like omaha"

URMeowed said, "WHOSE BIG BLIND...........RAISE IT UP"

my turn said, "yup"

URMeowed: Raise ($10)

fourputt: Fold

James2000: Fold

my turn : Fold

LEB07 : Fold

AttackDog: Fold

B29Bomber: Call ($5)

*** FLOP *** : [ 3h Qs 7h ]

B29Bomber: Check

URMeowed: Bet ($5)

B29Bomber: Call ($5)

*** TURN *** : [ 3h Qs 7h ] [ 9s ]

B29Bomber: Check

URMeowed: Bet ($10)

B29Bomber: Call ($10)

*** RIVER *** : [ 3h Qs 7h 9s ] [ Ks ]

B29Bomber: Bet ($10)

URMeowed: Call ($10)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $74 | Rake: $3

Board: [ 3h Qs 7h 9s Ks ]

URMeowed lost $35 (showed hand) [ Ac As ] (a pair of aces)

fourputt didn't bet (folded)

James2000 didn't bet (folded)

my turn didn't bet (folded)

LEB07 lost $2 (folded)

AttackDog lost $5 (folded)

Slick2 didn't bet (folded)

sandals didn't bet (folded)

blomsten 1 didn't bet (folded)

B29Bomber bet $35, collected $74, net +$39 (showed hand) [ Js Ts ] (a straight flush, nine to king)

I gotta stay out of these bad heads up situations although I did suck out for half the pot this time.....whew!!!


Game #113954343 - $5/$10 Hold'em - 2001/09/29-00:10:22 (CST)

Table "Tortuga" (real money) -- Seat 8 is the button

Seat 2: noosa ($413 in chips)

Seat 3: JJensen ($480 in chips)

Seat 4: bogey99 ($386 in chips)

Seat 5: so dak ($156 in chips)

Seat 6: CHIPS ($53 in chips)

Seat 7: joker No.1 ($10 in chips)

Seat 8: :zee: ($267 in chips)

Seat 9: URMeowed ($504 in chips)

Seat 10: lithuanian ($168 in chips)

URMeowed: Post Small Blind ($2)

lithuanian: Post Big Blind ($5)

Dealt to URMeowed [ Kd ]

Dealt to URMeowed [ Kc ]

noosa : Fold

JJensen : Call ($5)

bogey99 : Fold

so dak : Fold

CHIPS : Fold

joker No.1: Fold

:zee: : Fold

URMeowed: Raise ($8)

lithuanian: Fold

JJensen : Raise ($10)

URMeowed: Call ($5)

*** FLOP *** : [ 5h 6h 4c ]

URMeowed: Bet ($5)

JJensen : Raise ($10)

URMeowed: Raise ($10)

JJensen : Call ($5)

*** TURN *** : [ 5h 6h 4c ] [ 2s ]

URMeowed: Bet ($10)

JJensen : Call ($10)

*** RIVER *** : [ 5h 6h 4c 2s ] [ 3d ]

URMeowed: Bet ($10)

JJensen : Raise ($20)

URMeowed: Call ($10)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $122 | Rake: $3

Board: [ 5h 6h 4c 2s 3d ]

noosa didn't bet (folded)

JJensen bet $60, collected $61, net +$1 (showed hand) [ Ts Ah ] (a straight, two to six)

bogey99 didn't bet (folded)

so dak didn't bet (folded)

CHIPS didn't bet (folded)

joker No.1 didn't bet (folded)

:zee: didn't bet (folded)

URMeowed bet $60, collected $61, net +$1 (showed hand) [ Kd Kc ] (a straight, two to six)

lithuanian lost $5 (folded)

1. You made a FToP mistake preflop by not 4betting. OK, top players do that often too, when that mistake can make the opposition make even worse mistakes on later streets. It's called disguising one's hand.


2. You made a FToP mistake on the flop by not raising. There are two broadway cards on the flop, pot is not tiny AND the opponent is in playful mode, top three reasons not to slowplay.


3. You made a FToP mistake on the turn by not raising. If you don't decloak by the turn, your preflop cloaking is wasted.


4. You made a FToP mistake on the river by not folding. And you should, FToP is 100% in effect only when you *see* opponents cards, never fold a set on the river headsup! Never!


Bottom line is: he played it like he was chewing on some afghan dogshit, but you played it like you were neutered.


I'd rather chew dogshit.


Angelina Fekali

Studying People Inc.

Ljubljana, Slovenia

http://www.fekali.com/angelina

I disagree, Angelina. Why 4 bet preflop? What does that accomplish? I have seen Many limpers who re-raise have aces up front. Could have been in this spot too. A 4-bet does nothing in this spot, IMO. When this player limped and then re-raised, I figured him to have Aces, or perhaps AK. After Meowed flopped a set, the ONLY hands hes gonna get beat by are aces if a ace hits, or QT if a ace or a nine hits, or some other sort of idiot gutshot straight card. Hell, I would slow play too, with only a very few outs that would kill my hand. Why not play it slow and get as much out of this player as you can. Unless this guy has a very limited number of hands (Aces, AK, QT, AQ, or a set) and Meowed shows any strength in the hand, the other guy is likely to fold. When the ace hits the river and the guy bet, I was sure that he had aces. I probably would have called too, just to see the two outter, knowing I was beat. When he showed QT, it stings a bit more, but I see nothing wrong with Meowed having the best hand, and losing the least possible with it.


CN

P.S. Nice personal website. Got a kick out of some of those hands. Love the list of "busted" players. Thats a riot.


You ever play live, or just on the net?

It makes no sense slowplaying really big hands past the turn. Made hands as well as drawing hands (like AKs) will give action on turn, but not neccesarily on river.


Anyway, my post was kinda tongue-in-cheek, as I specifically mentioned FToP, which is only good for observing a certain situaion for that hand only when one knows all the holecards. In practice at the tables, FToP is no good and David knows it. Or, if I may put it another way, only players with extremely good hand reading skills can use FToP concepts to their advantage.


Angelina Fekali

Studying People Inc.

Ljubljana, Slovenia

http://www.fekali.com/angelina

Ok, well just calling the re-raise preflop can at times be a good play, but you horribly misplayed the hand after. Not raising the flop is certainly a mistake here with two other big cards on the flop but.... Now the turn comes and you just call!?!?!?! What are you thinking? You MUST raise here, this is a no brainer.


Not that any of it mattered as he certainly would have called but you really misplayed this hand horribly IMO.


-ActionBob